LIBRAS sign for mental confusion

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Mon Dec 11 12:25:27 UTC 2006

  I saw this sign during a theatrical production at the TISLR9 conference in Florianopolis.  It was so good to see old friends there, and to finally meet Stephen Parkhurst whom I have read about all these years.  I will send pictures later, but this sign had to be written down.
  This seems to be the easiest way to picture the hands in front of the nose in front of each other, wiggling and passing back and forth across the center line to capture the mind.
  I have stored it confusão_2 in the Brazilian Sign Language dictionary.
  I am now down here in Canoas for a month to get some papers together and hope to spend a lot of time with the several Deaf clubs in the area.

Adam Frost <adam at> wrote:
  Don't worry about rambling because that was exactly what I needed. I
realize that some of what I had written was wrong, which what my guts
were telling me. :-) Now I have something more concrate than just my
guts. (And if I want to teach others, relying on guts is never good.


On 12/9/06, Valerie Sutton wrote:
> SignWriting List
> December 9, 2006
> Adam Frost wrote:
> > Yes! That looks great. Seeing this icon brings up a question I had
> > when I was doing some hand writting (for quick and simplicity). When
> > you have a close (or any other finger movement) and you only write one
> > handshape, which is the position that should be written? I thought it
> > was the initial, but here you have the final. Was I wrong?
> Hello Adam!
> I am glad you asked this question. It is not always the beginning
> position. Not at all, in fact. Sometimes it is, but most of the time
> it is other rules that govern the choice...
> Writing both the beginning and ending positions is the most accurate
> or course...
> But when you want to shorten the writing of a sign, and you must
> choose one or the other, you choose:
> 1. The Position of Contact...see Spelling Rule:
> or if there is no contact....
> 2. The Position of Focus (the position that holds the most meaning)
> Number 2 needs a web page with a spelling rule written for
> isn't that is the fact that just the V hands by themselves
> could mean many things, but the result of the bending of the fingers
> is what tells you the information that you grabbed something, and so
> the ending position of the bending of the fingers are the result of
> the meaning of the sign...
> Think about reading something quickly for meaning...what is most
> meaningful, like the contact in a sign, is what is most
> important...and seeing that contact is what is needed first and
> contacting your chest twice...we don't write the hand
> far away from the chest first...we instead write the position of
> contact on the chest...but that is the second position...the landing
> on the chest is not the first we write the second
> position more than the first position actually although most people
> don't think about it...
> smile...I hope I have made myself clear...sorry for rambling on and
> on - Val ;-)

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