CWren at DOE.K12.GA.US CWren at DOE.K12.GA.US
Mon Feb 27 14:02:11 UTC 2006

SEE is a system that tries to include every unit of meaning in English 
into manual form initialized with the first letter of the word as much as 
possible.  So the sentence "I am going home" would have 5 signs, including 
a separate sign for "-ing".  I used to work with a lady who used this 
system.  "Thanksgiving" --one sign in ASL-- would be 4 signs in SEE= 
Thank, s, give, ing.  Its impossible to use at normal conversational 
speeds, and ridiculously silly the way they mangle some signs.  I'll try 
to do a true SEE sentence soon, and send it to ya'll.  Signs are based on 
the  out of three rule.  If a word is spelled the same and pronounced the 
same then it is signed the same regardless of meaning.  So, I have a run 
in my hose, I want to run for president, and my nose is running would all 
use the same sign for run.

There are a ton of other signed English code systems that try to manually 
represent English, and SEE is not the worst, although its close. THey were 
designed to teach Deaf kids English, but have been usurped and people are 
trying to use them instead of a true language.  So the kid sees nothing 
but these codes all day every day... 

CASE is true ASL signs, used in English word order.  Some people who use 
this system will structure, some won't.  Many don't realize that what they 
are signing doesn't make visual sense...  (I teach staff here at the 
school a class designed to help them understand there is such a thing as 
'visual sense' )

PSE is also called contact language.  Its what is generally used when 
hearing and Deaf come together.  Deaf folks move to more English word 
order to accomodate the hearing person, and the hearing person moves to 
more ASL-like signing --if they are able to. BIG IF-- to accomodate the 
deaf.  Usually the deaf person ends up doing more accomodation than the 
hearing person...


Cherie Wren
GSD Staff Interpreter
232 Perry Farm Rd
Cave Spring, GA 30124
706-766-0766 Cell

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I am not that good with writing the mouthing, but it is "It rained cats 
and dogs, yesterday" for SEE and "Yesterday, it rained really hard" for 
PS The restructuring is allowed for CASE because the English would not 
make visual sense if it was kept as it was in SEE and it keeps the same 
meaning. Just a little something that I am getting from my interpreting 
classes right now. ;-)
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