ASL poetry and nursery rhymes

Thu Jul 6 16:55:30 UTC 2006

[[It doesn't feel like a beginning of a sentence because we have always 
written a facial expression in the beginning of sentences...like eyebrows 
up for a topic marker, or eyebrows down for emphasis... Does the beginning 
of the sentence have a facial expression? It would help the reader anchor 
the sentence's center...]]

There isn't a specific facial expression, no topic or anything...  Should 
I add a neutral face just because?  Should there be a rule about always 
starting with a facial expression for the purpose of shoeing center and 
signifying the start of a sentence?

Upper row left:
Movement curves up-and-forward three times..The curve is hitting the front 
wall, at the Horizon, while it moves up. It is a little like being 
pregnant, but the curve is moving up instead of down...

Upper row right:
This is a smoother rolling connecting curve with forward to the horizon 
pushes along the way traveling up

Lower row left:
Straight diagonal...Up-forward, Up-forward, Up-forward.

The diagonal upwards  sign...  I had a real hard time selecting the arrow 
for that.  the movement is actually like this: each section of the arrow 
moving in an arc down and to the side as each successive arc leads upwards 
and forwards.  Hard to describe...  maybe I'll film it and send it to you, 
Val.  The curve is  forward and to the side diagonally...   three times, 
moving forward each time.  But I couldn't find that arrow in SignText...

BTW, in regards to the "how do you make literature" thread, I use SignTExt 
with a second window open to the Puddle sometimes, and sometimes just 
straight with SignText.  Depending on what I'm doing.  I'm still new 
enough to this that I like to see how other people have spelled things, 
and compare that with what I am doing...

cherie

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Re: [sw-l] ASL poetry and nursery rhymes

SignWriting List
July 5, 2006

Cherie Wren from Georgia, US wrote:
I attended the RID Region II conference while y'all were at NAD. One 
workshop was on using ASL poetry to interpret nursery rhymes... the 
attached was our groups rendition of "Jack and Jill". For those who aren't 
familiar with ASL poetry, rhyming is done with repeating handshapes. This 
interpretation of Jack and Jill uses the 1 (index finger extended) 
handshape almost exclusively... brief modification with the classifier 
describing the pail, but other than that...I had some trouble with the 
diagonals for up and down the hill... Did I write them correctly? Also how 
do you indicate that a handshape is left in place from the previous sign, 
while the next part happens? Did what I did here convey that adequately?
Jack and Jill
went up the hill
to fetch a pail of water
Jack fell down
and broke his crown
and Jill came tumbling after.
cherie

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Hello Cherie and Everyone!
This is so cool. Great to see sentences in SignWriting.... Thank you! And 
most with the Index Finger...interesting!

For the purpose of this email, I created a GIF of the sentence to make 
sure everyone on the List will see it. I think our List is suffering from 
not enough memory to handle all the many email messages and big graphics, 
and also spam...so when a big diagram is posted, it can rob other messages 
from a chance to post...

So see the GIF attached.. The first sign establishes Jack? and the second 
one is Jill? When I first read it, I longed for having Jill there waiting 
with white palm on the left side while Jack moved...so the sign would 
start with two white palmed index hands somewhat far apart from each 
other...but then I realized it may not have been signed that way...It 
doesn't feel like a beginning of a sentence because we have always written 
a facial expression in the beginning of sentences...like eyebrows up for a 
topic marker, or eyebrows down for emphasis... Does the beginning of the 
sentence have a facial expression? It would help the reader anchor the 
sentence's center...

I look forward to discussing sign three next...I hope later today...Val 
;-)

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