# left, right and together arrows

Charles Butler chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM
Thu Mar 16 02:42:42 UTC 2006

```Hello, everyone,

I would, for myself, sometimes write "possible" with one arrow, as shorthand, but only if I was trying to speed write.  The feel for "possible" is two-handed.  The feel for "basketball" is one arrow.  There really is a definite "feel" for signs that are one handed and two handed, and there is no "hard and fixed" rule.  I'd make it a VARIANT, but not the primary, kind of like, "thru" and "through" in English.  The first is quick, but the second is formally "correct.  There are "formal" ways to write and "variant" ways to write but we need to teach the "preferred" spelling.

Charles

Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
SignWriting List
March 15, 2006

> Thank you for your comment. Back to Charles' comment, that we can use
> possible sign with general arrow since both hands in same shape
> moves at
> the same direction. This shows simplify and less symbols to read.
> This
> is my thoughts.

Smile!

I did not read Charles' comment to mean that thousands of signs would
have to be re-written! Because that is what that means...

You are talking about changing the meaning of the General Arrow to
mean Parallel Paths...at the moment it is defined as Overlapping
Paths...that is totally different

A simplified way of teaching the concept of Overlapping Paths, was to
say that the two hands must contact each other and move
together....that is the General Arrow...when the right is on top of
the left....

Would you really write the sign for POSSIBLE, Charles, with a general
arrow? That would mean that all the signs that have the right and
left hands moving at the same time, would have to be changed...It
would be like a simultaneous line...the general arrow would change
its definition in a major way...

Here is how it is defined at this time, in all the textbooks on
SignWriting in the world:

Overlapping paths...general arrow

There are some exceptions, but the sign for POSSIBLE, or Parallel
Paths, has not been one of them...smile...

Anyway, at least I have told you how it is taught at the moment, and
I will try to create some better lessons!

Keep writing, Philippe...that is what matters the most...and as we
write more and more full sentences, we learn through experience what
is really needed...I think in dictionaries the entries are kind of
dry...if you know what I mean...they are not a part of a sentence and
so they do not have the feeling that comes into writing full
sentences in ASL...but I personally have found that writing ASL
sentences needs the right and left clearly defined...

Great to talk with you!!

Val ;-)

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