SW in England & Scotland

Shane Gilchrist O hEorpa shane.gilchrist.oheorpa at GMAIL.COM
Sun Mar 19 14:05:56 UTC 2006


some BSL signs were incorrectly written down by some signers who are not
fluent in BSL

as for the heart-attack, they used the wrong symbols etc :-(


On 3/19/06, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> If you go to the SignBank for UK Sign Language and hit "sign symbol
> frequency" you can see a representative sprinkling of signs for each of the
> handshapes which would be needed for a UK translation of Sign Writing for
> Everyday Use.  I worked on a rewrite in Brazilian Portuguese and Libras so
> it is a challenge, but no impossible.  It does require systematically going
> through and examining the handshapes that are used in UK so that the
> illustrations can be appropriate to the lessons.  I'm intrigued,
> particularly, by this one for "cardiac arrest / heart attack" and am
> wondering if there are signs in Libras and in ASL where the angle of the
> finger from a right angle to a bent angle constitutes a "minimal pair."
> [image: heart-attack] Cardiac Arrest / Heart Attack
> [image: it]  Third person (he, she, or it)
> *Shane Gilchrist O hEorpa <shane.gilchrist.oheorpa at gmail.com>* wrote:
> Thierry,
> youre our real hero!!! :-)
> i'm trying very hard to sell the idea to the Durham people - my work
> (hopefully) will work with them on the development of the sign lang
> curriculum to be used in the schools (not deaf schools) in the UK and
> Ireland - and that SW should be incorporated.
> Some did complain that there is not enough representation from
> England's deaf community or the sign linguists in the UK - i said i
> did encourage them to go but they were very lukewarm - if there ain't
> important people backing this, whats the point in going???
> Need to get the deaf schools in England ! & Scotland to use signwriting
> i.e. Doncaster, Derby, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Manchester, Bristol,
> Exeter, Brighton, St Albans and the two schools in London - but can't
> do anything UNTIL I can get someone to illustrate Val Sutton's
> excellent SignWriting lessons with BSL signs - they will go phoo phoo
> at the ASL pieces.
> like you said, its the matter of time
> Shane Gilchrist Ó hEorpa
> European Sign Writers Organisation
> On 3/18/06, Thierry Haesenne wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > If you haven't seen me lately on the list it is because I have been so
> busy
> > I haven't even been able to follow up with everything on the list...
> Sorry
> > guys! I am not letting you down....
> >
> > Val, and all the others, you will be happy to learn that another Deaf
> School
> > in French-speaking Belgium has asked me to train their teachers (three
> deaf)
> > about SW... They will ! start using it as soon as they have finished
> their
> > basic training with me. The hearing teachers will be trained later...
> >
> > It's the Centre d'Enseignement Spécial Provincial de Mons (CESPM) in
> Ghlin
> > (near Mons in the Hainaut Province, about 70km south-west of Brussels).
> >
> > A few weeks ago, I gave a short training session with my colleague
> Damien on
> > SW and the glossing system during a special training day for the
> teachers of
> > the Deaf. Someone from Ghlin passed on the message and about two days
> later,
> > I was contacted and asked whether I could train two deaf people. The
> > training session started on Friday and there will be several further
> > training sessions until mid-May. But I encouraged the deaf teachers to
> start
> > using SW with the kids (especially the handshapes and locations on the
> > face). The movements will be taught later.
> >
> > I was also asked to organise a seminar on SW i! n one Deaf Club in
> Brussels on
> > 21 April. The aim is to introduce deaf people and LSFB teachers to SW,
> and
> > also encourage hearing people to use it to learn LSFB in a more
> efficient
> > way. Also a group of LSFB teachers asked me to train them in SW, but we
> > haven't arranged a date yet. I guess it will be in September since I
> don't
> > have much availabilities till then.
> >
> > My colleague Damien is still training teachers of the Deaf in Brussels
> but
> > they are still a bit afraid of using SW and the glossing system every
> day
> > (they have used it on and off in class so far). In the bilingual school
> of
> > Namur, some teachers were introduced to SW but have not requested any
> > further developments. I guess it is just a matter of time... Until now,
> only
> > the IRHOV (Deaf school in Liege) has started using it in class, and it
> will
> > soon be followed by the CESPM of Ghlin.
> >
> > Val, I am teaching LSFB ! to Cecile Beaufort, so I see her twice every
> week!
> > She often asks me questions about SW during pauses. I still need to go
> to
> > her class to assess the progress and give her some guidance. Do not
> worry, I
> > am keeping a close eye on the development of SW in French-speaking
> Belgium!
> >
> >
> > I guess that in the near future, most Deaf Schools in French-speaking
> > Belgium will be using SW (except the ones with a strong oralist
> tradition).
> >
> > I hope that's enough good news for now!!! smile :-)
> >
> > Take care, all of you!
> >
> >
> > Thierry
> >
> >
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