Load Signs from SignPuddle into SignText

Wed Mar 8 18:47:09 UTC 2006

Hi Philip,

This is a complicated topic that only affects the ASL and German 
puddles.  The short answer is that not all signs can be loaded into 
SignText.  If you see a questions mark, then the sign is something 
called an image only sign.

Image Only Signs
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Image only signs are image files with a gloss label.  Nothing more.  
These signs can not be loaded into SignMaker or SignText.

Signs created with SignPuddle
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These signs have a build file.  The build file contains all of the 
information needed to recreate the sign.  It contains the SSS id numbers 
along with XY coordinates.

History and Explanation
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A long time ago, SignPuddle only used images of signs that were 
uploaded.  I created the first ASL SignPuddle dictionary with about 2000 
image files.  Later, I created SignMaker so that signs could be created 
online with the actual symbol information included.

If you go to the Dictionary Editors screen and search for "help", you 
will see the following.

This is a sign that was created in SignMaker.  You can look at the build 
file if you're interested.
http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/help.bld

And then there are the graphic only signs...

This is a graphic only sign.  The only file is the graphic file.  It 
does not have a build file.
http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/dict/sl/help_10.png

A long time ago we debated if we should delete the image only signs.  We 
decided against it because we didn't want to shrink the dictionary.

I am working on fingerspelling and will report to the list later.

Sorry for the confusion,
Thanks for your time,
-Steve

Gallant, Philippe wrote:
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> Steve,
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> Ok, thank you for the tip.   I did put all the words together at the 
> translate window and load to Sign Text and pressed refresh button 
> several times.  I still get many question marks.  Here is the words 
> that I am using for sign text, it is part of my survey questions and 
> not completed sentence yet. I just want you to test it yourself.  You 
> can copy this and put on translate window...
>
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> me cl-list-throw why people area-right not-yet go-ahead HIV test_3, 
> what priority_3 reason you not go-ahead HIV test_3, me have HIV doubt, 
> paranoid scared HIV have, me obsess_2 imagination know if_4 me HIV  me 
> do-not-want, HIV test_3 where_3 me do-not-know, HIV test_3 have me 
> do-not-know, me paranoid imagination have HIV my name inform 
> government, me paranoid worry me finish HIV test_3 rumor, me want HIV 
> test none interpreter, other reason, none reason.
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> Did you get many question marks when you load to sign text?  In this 
> case, we need to make corrections on image signs and fix the 
> fingerspelling in Sign Text.  Hope this helps...
>
> Philippe "Philip" Gallant
> Cultural Advocacy Health Services Coordinator
> Mercy Medical Center
> Interpretation Services Department
>            VOICE:  (866) 410-5787 ext. 73013
>                TTY:  (515) 643-SIGN (7446)
>                FAX:  (515) 643-2859
> VIDEOPHONE:  pgallant.mercydesmoines.org
>
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> *From:* owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu 
> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] *On Behalf Of *Steve 
> Slevinski
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:25 AM
> *To:* sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [sw-l] Load Signs from SignPuddle into SignText
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> Hi Philip,
>
> You need to use the text editing buttons.  There are 9 for each sign.
>
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> The 2 that you want are (Load) and (Replace).
>
> (Load) will load the selected sign into the SignBox.
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> (Replace) will replace the selected sign with the sign in the SignBox.
>
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> So let's say you want to modify a sign in your text.  This is a 3 step 
> process. 
> 1) Load the sign by clicking on (Load).
> 2) Modify the sign in the SignBox.
> 3) Replace the sign by clicking on (Replace).
>
> Regards,
> -Steve
>
>
> Gallant, Philippe wrote:
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> OK, how can I take the specific signs from the sign text and make
> modification and then put it back on the same spot of the sign text (not
> place at the end of the sentence)?  I am sorry if it is already explain
> in the manual that I overlooked.
>  
> Philippe "Philip" Gallant
> Cultural Advocacy Health Services Coordinator
> Mercy Medical Center
> Interpretation Services Department
>            VOICE:  (866) 410-5787 ext. 73013
>                TTY:  (515) 643-SIGN (7446)
>                FAX:  (515) 643-2859
> VIDEOPHONE:  pgallant.mercydesmoines.org
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> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] On Behalf Of Valerie Sutton
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> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Load Signs from SignPuddle into SignText
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> SignWriting List
> March 7, 2006
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> Load Signs from SignPuddle Dictionaries continued...
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> 7. The signs will load into the sentence column in SignText Editor.
> 8. Press the Reload Button once to see the signs loaded into SignText.
> 9. Once the signs are in SignText, you can create a sentence with them.
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