Order of writing

K.J. Boal kjoanne403 at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Nov 21 02:12:24 UTC 2006

Hi Jason,

I tend to place the symbols in that order too, depending on what sign I'm 
writing.  I was recently writing a sign where I started with the shoulders; 
placed the hands, contact symbols and movement symbol in that order, and 
then went back and added a facial expression.  If I need the head as part of 
the sign, though, I place it first, same as you.

Kelly Jo

>From: "Jason Hopkins" <codenosher at YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>To: SignWritingList <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>Subject: [sw-l] Order of writing
>Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:17:22 -0800 (PST)
>I'm new to SW.  I find the reading pretty straight forward, but writing 
>takes some extra thought.
>One thing that is unique with trying to document a visual language is the 
>order in which to start laying out the symbols.  I don't mean word order, 
>but the order in which the different aspects of a sign are written.
>Some parts of the sign are not needed, so I have to determine, from the 
>available symbols, which are NOT necessary to convey my meaning.  Then I 
>need to decided where to put the symbols.  The order of placement is what 
>I'm finding interesting.
>I know, it's a detail that is probably absorbing too much of my attention, 
>but that's the kind of guy I am :)
>I tend to follow this order:
>Head, Face
>Hand shape, Orientation
>Movement Direction, Arrow Choice
>I don't follow this like a checklist, it just happens to be the order I use 
>when constructing a SW image.  Some symbols are clearly not needed for a 
>specific sign in order to convey full meaning, so I don't worry about them.
>For example, when I create the SW image for "ponder", I first think to 
>myself, in this case I need a head ad a face.  On the face I need eyebrows 
>and a mouth.  I don't even think about not needing shoulders, it doesn't 
>even come up.  I then determine the hand shape and orientation, and where 
>to put them in relation to the face.  Then I think about movement direction 
>and what arrows will best show it.
>I'm curious, is this the type of thought process that others use?  Do you 
>use this order or something different?
>-Jason Hopkins
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