SignText Video Instruction in Quicktime

Wed Oct 18 02:40:55 UTC 2006

Yes, I'd like that.
Kelly Jo

>From: "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
>Reply-To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignText Video Instruction in Quicktime
>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:25:00 -0700
>
>SignWriting List
>October 17, 2006
>
>Cherie -
>You are doing beautifully! All you need is a three-day workshop with  me 
>and your questions would be answered. Maybe we can arrange for you  and a 
>few others on your staff to travel to San Diego to study with  me...
>
>But having said that, you are one of the most skilled with SignText  in the 
>world right now, Cherie, and I am grateful for your wonderful  documents!!
>
>On another side note, the SW List software (the software that posts  our 
>messages) is not doing well. I noticed that members of the  TeachASL List 
>are having the same problem. I have tried to post  around 6 times this 
>morning and none of my emails have reached the  List...if this one does, it 
>is the first to succeed and it is quite  frustrating!
>
>So maybe I should start a private List just for SignWriting and  SignText 
>instruction? and people will have to write to me privately  to sign up, and 
>we can send messages back and forth between a small  group of us?
>
>That might solve the problem for now...
>
>Is there anyone who wants to study with me in that way privately?
>
>Val ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>On Oct 17, 2006, at 5:06 AM, Cherie Wren wrote:
>
>>When I first got interested in SignWriting, it was
>>when the SWDOS program was all that was available.  I
>>downloaded it, looked at it, and felt so completely
>>overwhelmed that I gave up.  When I came back, it was
>>to the SignPuddle, not yet SignText.  It was no longer
>>overwhelming.  I could SEE what I was doing, whereas
>>on the SWDOS, I could not.  On that, I saw my regular
>>keyboard, and had no idea how to make it into a
>>signwriting keyboard. There was no "Lessons in
>>Signwriting: book then either...
>>
>>It does feel slow, but thats because I'm still not
>>always certain exactly what I'm doing.  I really need
>>to try to write a little everyday to build up
>>confidence and speed...  I go into the layers with
>>rotations because I need to see what my options are
>>and pick just the right one.  I don't always know
>>--without seeing choices--  which symbol I need.  I
>>also sign while I'm writing--  still "sounding out"
>>(Feeling out? :-) what I'm doing, which makes my
>>coworker who shares the office laugh at me...
>>::grin::
>>
>>cherie
>>
>>--- Valerie Sutton <signwriting at MAC.COM> wrote:
>>
>>>SignWriting List
>>>October 16, 2006
>>>
>>>Steve - You are doing so much for us! I am most
>>>amazed and grateful
>>>for the drag and drop system you have created for
>>>us...It is a
>>>miracle how fast I can create a sentence...has
>>>anyone noticed how
>>>fast I created that sentence in the video? I do not
>>>bother with going
>>>down layers most of the time but get the upper
>>>symbol and then use
>>>the command keys to rotate and flop the symbol and
>>>also I use the
>>>Fill Key to change the palm facing...that is very
>>>very similar to the
>>>way it would be typed in SignWriter DOS - those
>>>special command keys
>>>are exactly taken from our typing system in
>>>SignWriter DOS, so I
>>>think that if Ron could really study the way I
>>>created that sentence
>>>in the video, you will see that I was using keys
>>>with the mouse, that
>>>are exactly the same as in SignWriter DOS special
>>>command keys...
>>>
>>>the dragging and dropping is much faster than I
>>>believe people
>>>realize, because of the combination with the special
>>>command keys
>>>with the dragging and dropping and in the long run,
>>>I believe that
>>>SignPuddle is at least equal to the speed of
>>>creating sentences with
>>>SignWriter DOS right now...we could time me creating
>>>a sentence with
>>>SWDOS and SignText and I bet the SignText would be
>>>at least equal...
>>>
>>>So look at the video again to see how much I use the
>>>command keys...
>>>
>>>teaching people to type directly in SignWriting
>>>symbols with
>>>SignWriter DOS never went well because most people
>>>pasted from the
>>>dictionary and never learned to really type
>>>directly...
>>>
>>>That is why it is so important to create sentences
>>>directly in
>>>SignText without pasting signs in from
>>>SignPuddle...creating the
>>>signs without pasting is better for the grammar of
>>>the language
>>>because the writer puts more unique facial
>>>expressions in
>>>automatically when they are not being forced into an
>>>exact sign from
>>>a dictionary..
>>>
>>>Val ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Oct 16, 2006, at 6:00 PM, Steve Slevinski wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Ron,
>>>>
>>>>The keyboard is very important for SignWriting and
>>>will return.
>>>>Hopefully there will be another version of
>>>SignWriter someday.
>>>>Interestingly enough, Val has already designed a
>>>keyboard layout
>>>>for the entire IMWA.
>>>>
>>>>In the future, keyboarding will be included in
>>>SignPuddle.  It will
>>>>probably start with adjusting the placement of
>>>symbols and the
>>>>special commands like rotate and fill.  Full
>>>keyboarding will take
>>>>some time because of technical issues and
>>>priorities.  It is also a
>>>>special skill that few took the time to master.
>>>>
>>>>But just imaging writing a complete SignWriting
>>>document with only
>>>>the keyboard.  It's fast and natural.  I'm sure
>>>Val and Stefan
>>>>could explain it better than I.
>>>>
>>>>I can't imagine writing English using the mouse.
>>>The keyboard is
>>>>so much more powerful.  But then we'll need
>>>training material for
>>>>touch typing and SignWriting.  Maybe even an
>>>online tool that
>>>>teaches touch typing interactively.  So much to
>>>do...
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>-Steve
>>>>
>>>>Ronald Dettloff wrote:
>>>>>Dear Valerie,
>>>>>    Thanks for explaining about the font sizes.
>>>Great!  Regarding
>>>>>the hot-keys: a better explanation would be
>>>remember how you could
>>>>>use your keyboard to go into the different layers
>>>of a sign. I
>>>>>think that is quicker the the amount of time
>>>needed click through
>>>>>the various layers until you find the right
>>>symbol. For example I
>>>>>would like a set of keys to move a sign around,
>>>manipulate the
>>>>>sign, or call out for the touch, dynamic or
>>>movement signs. That
>>>>>way all my fingers and the mouse could be used.
>>>We lost a lot of
>>>>>advantages when we went to windows. I think it
>>>might be a good
>>>>>idea for you to allow people to make suggestions
>>>for the keyboard
>>>>>and then Stephen could incorporate them into
>>>SignPuddle.
>>>>>   Thanks for asking,
>>>>>
>>>>>Rev. Ronald H. Dettloff, 20880 Ten Mile Road, St.
>>>Clair Shores, MI
>>>>>48080
>>>>>Other Web links:
>>>http://theshoreschurch.org/ME2/
>>>>>Audiences/Default.asp
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>Val ;-)
>
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