SignWriting at the Gally protest?

Kimberley Shaw skifoot at GMAIL.COM
Mon Oct 23 12:41:03 UTC 2006


Me too -- I would LOVE to see video clips of people doing this chant! So
far, the video clips I've seen from the protest seem to show almost
everything else ...
this is why I hate glossing so much.
I keep seeing the glossed version of this chant, but not yet the actual way
people are signing it.
Here's two sites with links to video clips about the protest ...
www.elisawrites.com
www.gufssa.com
Best,
Kim from Boston


On 10/23/06, CWren at doe.k12.ga.us <CWren at doe.k12.ga.us> wrote:
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> Shouldn't the sign for SAME have the palm facing down on the floor plane?
> I have never seen the sign SAME with palms facing in toward each other...
>
>   This is the sign SAME-ALL-OVER
>
>    I would gloss this as "same-old-same-old"  but notice the movement of
> the circles is different than the above "same"-- different plane of movement
>
> Either of these signs adds additional meaning to the sentence "GALLY UNITE
> SAME."  In the first instance Gally is united all over (not just here):  and
> in the second instance  Gally is united again (and will always be).  Stuff
> in parentheses is implied, not explicit.  I would love to see a video of
> someone signing this...
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> SignWriting List
> October 22, 2006
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> OK. The Shorthand sample is now posted on this web page:
>
> Val's Shorthand of the Gally sentence...
> http://www.SignWriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs011.html<http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs011.html>
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> Val ;-)
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> On Oct 22, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
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> > Hello Everyone!
> > This message refuses to post to the List, if I include a diagram,
> > so I am posting the message here once again, and then I will create
> > a web page with the diagram...so that link is coming !  Val ;-)
> >
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> > SignWriting List
> > October 22, 2006
> >
> > Kimberley Shaw wrote:
> >
> >> The SW below is what I think that sign is saying, which is one of
> >> the big chants from this round of protests. "J-a-n-e out" is the
> >> other one. By the way, SignText doesn't want to load up onto my
> >> computer today, so I had to use Puddle "translate" today ...
> >>
> >
> > Hi Kim and Stuart!
> > Sorry to see SignText did not work for you today. Regarding the
> > Puddle signs...they are not written correctly regarding palm
> > facing...they had the palm facing switched so I have switched them
> > in the attached diagram plus I attached my quick shorthand for
> > those signs to the right...
> >
> > Shorthand is not the same as Handwriting...Handwriting is more
> > formal in comparison...Shorthand is more personal...I assume
> > knowledge of the signs...for example in the middle sign...I didn't
> > need to write both hands since the Grasp Symbol informed me of two
> > hands and I assumed they were the same handshape unless otherwise
> > stated...In Shorhand the baseshape or rootshape is not important
> > because you are assuming knowledge of the language, but when you re-
> > write your notes in SignWriting Printing then you use the proper
> > official symbols.
> >
> > The Shorthand that you saw on the Gallaudet poster is quite similar
> > to SignWriting...it looks like a direct take from SignWriting, but
> > it might also be a blend of other notation systems that people
> > develop for themselves personally, like Bernard Bragg's, which
> > Stuart just mentioned...You would be amazed how many personal
> > notation systems look a little like SignWriting...that is a good
> > sign, because it means that we are visually in tune with how
> > signers naturally think...
> >
> > No matter what, it is exciting to see the pictures of the poster
> > with the writing! Maybe people are ready to start writing signs - I
> > hope so! For those who want ASL to be respected, I would think
> > writing the language would become more and more important as time
> > goes on -
> >
> > Thanks for your postings, Stuart and Kim!
> >
> > Val ;-)
> >
> >
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