SignWriting at the Gally protest?

[CWren at DOE.K12.GA.US]

Shouldn't the sign for SAME have the palm facing down on the floor plane? 
I have never seen the sign SAME with palms facing in toward each other...

  This is the sign SAME-ALL-OVER

   I would gloss this as "same-old-same-old"  but notice the movement of 
the circles is different than the above "same"-- different plane of 
movement

Either of these signs adds additional meaning to the sentence "GALLY UNITE 
SAME."  In the first instance Gally is united all over (not just here): 
and in the second instance  Gally is united again (and will always be). 
Stuff in parentheses is implied, not explicit.  I would love to see a 
video of someone signing this...

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SignWriting List
October 22, 2006

OK. The Shorthand sample is now posted on this web page:

Val's Shorthand of the Gally sentence...
http://www.SignWriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs011.html

Val ;-)

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On Oct 22, 2006, at 5:20 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:

> Hello Everyone!
> This message refuses to post to the List, if I include a diagram, 
> so I am posting the message here once again, and then I will create 
> a web page with the diagram...so that link is coming !  Val ;-)
>
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> SignWriting List
> October 22, 2006
>
> Kimberley Shaw wrote:
>
>> The SW below is what I think that sign is saying, which is one of 
>> the big chants from this round of protests. "J-a-n-e out" is the 
>> other one. By the way, SignText doesn't want to load up onto my 
>> computer today, so I had to use Puddle "translate" today ...
>>
>
> Hi Kim and Stuart!
> Sorry to see SignText did not work for you today. Regarding the 
> Puddle signs...they are not written correctly regarding palm 
> facing...they had the palm facing switched so I have switched them 
> in the attached diagram plus I attached my quick shorthand for 
> those signs to the right...
>
> Shorthand is not the same as Handwriting...Handwriting is more 
> formal in comparison...Shorthand is more personal...I assume 
> knowledge of the signs...for example in the middle sign...I didn't 
> need to write both hands since the Grasp Symbol informed me of two 
> hands and I assumed they were the same handshape unless otherwise 
> stated...In Shorhand the baseshape or rootshape is not important 
> because you are assuming knowledge of the language, but when you re- 
> write your notes in SignWriting Printing then you use the proper 
> official symbols.
>
> The Shorthand that you saw on the Gallaudet poster is quite similar 
> to SignWriting...it looks like a direct take from SignWriting, but 
> it might also be a blend of other notation systems that people 
> develop for themselves personally, like Bernard Bragg's, which 
> Stuart just mentioned...You would be amazed how many personal 
> notation systems look a little like SignWriting...that is a good 
> sign, because it means that we are visually in tune with how 
> signers naturally think...
>
> No matter what, it is exciting to see the pictures of the poster 
> with the writing! Maybe people are ready to start writing signs - I 
> hope so! For those who want ASL to be respected, I would think 
> writing the language would become more and more important as time 
> goes on -
>
> Thanks for your postings, Stuart and Kim!
>
> Val ;-)
>
>




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