Writing Number 16 in ASL

[Adam Frost]

I personally agree. I think it would be better without the rotation. :-)

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: "Stuart Thiessen" <sw at passitonservices.org>

Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:46:58 
To:"SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Cc:"Gallant Philippe" <pgallant at passitonservices.org>
Subject: Re: [sw-l] Writing Number 16 in ASL


I personally see no problem with leaving the rotation symbols out.  
The palm orientations assume the rotation will have to take place  
anyway, so we do not lose any important information. It makes it more  
compact for page numbers. It would be a bit silly, but we could make  
the "artificial" distinction between the name of the number (with a  
rotation symbol) and the number itself (without a rotation  
symbol) ... :-D. Probably not necessary though.

If we're taking a vote, I'd say let's try it without the rotation  
symbol, but accept the rotation symbol as an alternate spelling if  
people feel more comfortable with it.

What do other Deaf think?

Thanks,

Stuart

On 22 Aug 2007, at 13:40, Valerie Sutton wrote:

> On Aug 22, 2007, at 11:24 AM, Stuart Thiessen wrote:
>> Well, it is the 10 hand ... in concept ...  but when I actually  
>> produce the sign, the thumb of the 10 hand actually rests on the  
>> hand instead of being fully extended. In other words, the formal  
>> way to teach is 10+6, but in actual production (at least for me),  
>> the thumb of the 10 hand is not fully extended.  Does that make  
>> sense?
>> Stuart
>
> Oh yes...I fully understand that is the way you sign it...and it is  
> written well for that purpose ;-)
>
> But should the formal writing of the number 16, in page numbers at  
> the bottom of publications like the Bible, and Cat in the  
> Hat...should that writing be formal or informal?
>
> In other words, from a standardization point of view, for formal  
> writing documents, should we be writing the way one person produces  
> the sign, or the way the sign was built on 10 plus 6?
>
> And actually my real question was related to the Rotation  
> Symbol...is it really needed in the formal writing of the sign when  
> we can see the rotation from position to position?
>
> I wonder if these questions will ever be fully solved...there are  
> just so many issues involved with standardization!
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