RocketSigns

Stuart Thiessen sw at PASSITONSERVICES.ORG
Wed Dec 12 21:18:35 UTC 2007


I would agree with Cherie that he does have a strong English accent to  
his signing on the video promotion. :)  That could be a by product of  
using an English script to plan what he will say in the promo video or  
if they wrote the English first for subtitling and then signed the  
"ASL" based on the English script. The rest of the package would have  
to be evaluated to see if it truly taught ASL or not. His topics are  
certainly good topics that he will discuss. Without further details,  
it is hard to say.

my 2¢,

Stuart
On 12 Dec 2007, at 14:47 , Cherie Wren wrote:

>
> "I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home  
> page..."
>
> Its not ASL, if the video of Jake talking about his course is any  
> indication.  He is signing straight English word order..  Of course,  
> you can write signed English in SW, I just have objections to it  
> being marketed as an ASL course...
>
> ---------------------------------
> Cherie Wren
> GSD Science Teacher
> 232 Perry Farm Rd
> Cave Spring, GA 30124
> 706-777-2328
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>   1. Curious for your opinion... (Valerie Sutton)
>   2. Re: Curious for your opinion... (GerardM)
>   3. Re: Curious for your opinion... (Rodrigo Ferreira Bagni)
>   4. Re: Curious for your opinion... (Valerie Sutton)
>   5. Re: Curious for your opinion... ( Adam Frost )
>   6. Re: Curious for your opinion... ( Adam Frost )
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> ----- Message from "Valerie Sutton" <signwriting at mac.com> on Wed, 12  
> Dec 2007 10:38:42 -0800 -----
> To:
> "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject:
> [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home page...
>
> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/specialoffer.php
>
> Have you ever seen this new course?
>
> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
>
> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
> ----- Message from GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> on Wed, 12  
> Dec 2007 20:00:22 +0100 -----
> To:
> "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject:
> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> Hoi,
> They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful  
> drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now  
> obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake does  
> not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his  
> opinion about SignWriting ... :)
> Thanks,
>    Gerard
>
> On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home page...
>
> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/specialoffer.php
>
> Have you ever seen this new course?
>
> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
>
> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
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> ----- Message from "Rodrigo Ferreira Bagni" <rodbagni at gmail.com> on  
> Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:08:51 -0300 -----
> To:
> "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject:
> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> Maybe not.
> Because he says that it is difficult to read the pictures and  
> drawings because they are bad.
> In case of SignWriting it is different, you can read the sign very  
> well, but first you have to learn it.
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2007 4:00 PM, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful  
> drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now  
> obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake does  
> not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his  
> opinion about SignWriting ... :)
> Thanks,
>    Gerard
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home page...
>
> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/specialoffer.php
>
> Have you ever seen this new course?
>
> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
>
> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
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> -- 
> Rodrigo Ferreira Bagni
> ----- Message from "Valerie Sutton" <signwriting at mac.com> on Wed, 12  
> Dec 2007 11:10:47 -0800 -----
> To:
> "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject:
> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> Gerard -
> It doesn't matter what Jake's opinion is about SignWriting!
> Obviously, if he has never heard of it, or does not know it, then his
> opinion can only be that of a person who does not know it yet...but
> when he learns SignWriting later...then his opinion will have
> importance...
>
> I have never met Jake, but I look forward to meeting him soon!
>
> My question is to the ASL users...if the course Jake teaches is good
> ASL, and is a helpful course to people without SignWriting, then it
> will be a wonderful tool for us to write it in SignWriting, which
> will then be an added help to Jake's students...
>
> People in the Sign Language worlds do not realize there is a way to
> write their language yet, and this would be a good way to collaborate
> with Jake, with his permission of course, to spread the idea that
> there is a way to write the language now...
>
> But first I want the opinion of the ASL signwriters as to whether
> this course would be a good one to work with...
>
> There are several courses in ASL that only use video, and we could
> contact any one f them and ask permission to write those courses in
> SignWriting, giving an added support for ASL students...
>
> So I am just curious about opinions on the ASL course and should we
> contact Jake about adding some SignWriting?
>
> All people, when they first hear about SignWriting, are surprised,
> but once they learn it I have never met a person who is against
> it...the only people who are against it, are those who do not know  
> it...
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ----------
>
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2007, at 11:00 AM, GerardM wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful
> > drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now
> > obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake does
> > not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his
> > opinion about SignWriting ... :)
> > Thanks,
> >     Gerard
> >
> > On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:
> > SignWriting List
> > December 12, 2007
> >
> > I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> > started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home  
> page...
> >
> > http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/ 
> specialoffer.php
> >
> > Have you ever seen this new course?
> >
> > We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
> >
> > Do you think that would be a good idea?
> >
> > Val ;-)
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> ----- Message from Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> on Wed, 12 Dec  
> 2007 19:11:29 +0000 -----
> To:
> "SW List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject:
> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> I was just looking at the address. I live right by where they are  
> based. Might be something to look into. ;)
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Valerie Sutton" <signwriting at mac.com>
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:38:42
> To:"SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
>
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home page...
>
> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/specialoffer.php
>
> Have you ever seen this new course?
>
> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
>
> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________
>
> SW-L SignWriting List
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> ----- Message from Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com> on Wed, 12 Dec  
> 2007 19:15:25 +0000 -----
> To:
> "SW List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject:
> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
> I haven't had a chance to look at the videos because I am at work at  
> the moment.
>
> Adam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Valerie Sutton" <signwriting at mac.com>
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:10:47
> To:"SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>
>
> SignWriting List
> December 12, 2007
>
> Gerard -
> It doesn't matter what Jake's opinion is about SignWriting!
> Obviously, if he has never heard of it, or does not know it, then his
> opinion can only be that of a person who does not know it yet...but
> when he learns SignWriting later...then his opinion will have
> importance...
>
> I have never met Jake, but I look forward to meeting him soon!
>
> My question is to the ASL users...if the course Jake teaches is good
> ASL, and is a helpful course to people without SignWriting, then it
> will be a wonderful tool for us to write it in SignWriting, which
> will then be an added help to Jake's students...
>
> People in the Sign Language worlds do not realize there is a way to
> write their language yet, and this would be a good way to collaborate
> with Jake, with his permission of course, to spread the idea that
> there is a way to write the language now...
>
> But first I want the opinion of the ASL signwriters as to whether
> this course would be a good one to work with...
>
> There are several courses in ASL that only use video, and we could
> contact any one f them and ask permission to write those courses in
> SignWriting, giving an added support for ASL students...
>
> So I am just curious about opinions on the ASL course and should we
> contact Jake about adding some SignWriting?
>
> All people, when they first hear about SignWriting, are surprised,
> but once they learn it I have never met a person who is against
> it...the only people who are against it, are those who do not know  
> it...
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ----------
>
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2007, at 11:00 AM, GerardM wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful
> > drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now
> > obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake does
> > not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his
> > opinion about SignWriting ... :)
> > Thanks,
> >     Gerard
> >
> > On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:
> > SignWriting List
> > December 12, 2007
> >
> > I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
> > started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home  
> page...
> >
> > http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/ 
> specialoffer.php
> >
> > Have you ever seen this new course?
> >
> > We could write to them to ask permission to write it in SignWriting.
> >
> > Do you think that would be a good idea?
> >
> > Val ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________________
> >
> > SW-L SignWriting List
> >
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