RocketSigns
Valerie Sutton
dac at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Thu Dec 13 15:03:15 UTC 2007
SignWriting List
December 13, 2007
Hello Cherie!
Of course go right ahead and discuss anything on the TeachASL List...
from my perspective anyway...Lists are open forums....So a message
posted on the SW List, for me, anyway, can certainly be posted
elsewhere...
Stuart...can Cherie discuss what you said on TeachASL?...
Enjoy your discussion!
Val ;-)
On Dec 13, 2007, at 3:40 AM, Cherie Wren wrote:
> I agree 1000%!
>
> And I want to know more about that teaching method... does it have
> a name, can you point me to the research behind it? ::smile::
> Thats one of the biggest complaints about/from signing students--
> receptive skills lag so far behind expressive, even after years and
> years of study sometimes.
>
> Can I forward the relevant part to the teachASL list? We have just
> been discussing teaching philosophy-- voice or no voice in class...
>
> cherie
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Stuart Thiessen <sw at passitonservices.org>
> To: SignWriting List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 6:33:38 PM
> Subject: Re: AW: [sw-l] RocketSigns
>
> Well, this is my perception. I think the way that SW can be more
> readily accepted in the American Deaf Community is to show how it
> truly represents ASL. If the bulk of documents show 'weak ASL' then
> the American Deaf Community will not see how it can be used to
> promote and preserve ASL. Those who value literacy understand the
> value of sharing ideas. But, at this point, preservation of ASL and
> the promotion of ASL as a valid and necessary language for American
> Deaf is a higher value for them. So, I understand your point about
> the transcription of the video and how the actual signing does not
> impact SW at all. But from a PR point of view within the ASL Deaf
> community, I think it is better to make sure we have a higher
> percentage of documents that show clear ASL.
>
> I assume the same would be true of most other Deaf communities
> around the world. If the document is a clear representation of the
> language in use, then it will make the SW more attractive.
>
> For ASL curriculum, I like Signing Naturally. I have also become
> excited about a new way to teach sign language where the student
> actually does not do any signing at first but just watches signing
> around him/her and responds to instructions ("Go get the paper",
> "Bring the book to me.", etc.) for a period of about 2-3 weeks
> (assuming a class that meets daily). After that, the students begin
> to respond in sign language. I observed this method with one sign
> language class and students were signing much more naturally than
> students who started signing from day one. The reason for this
> approach is that observing the language for this initial period
> causes the brain to begin to organize itself to learn that language
> which will help it become more natural in the long term.
>
> Just my 2¢,
>
> Stuart
>
> On 12 Dec 2007, at 16:49 , Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
>
>> Hi Valerie and friends,
>>
>> I just downloaded the 6 days trial version of this ASL course.
>>
>> Of course - with almost no insight to really DEAF ASL SIGNING - I
>> cannot judge whatsoever the "quality" of the performance -
>>
>> Well on the other hand - a scribe writing SignLanguage
>> performance in SignWriting does not judge the performance but
>> tries to document what he sees.
>>
>> And for this reason it would be a wonderful chance for all of us
>> and for newcomers if there would be a couple of online videos on
>> some websites - showing single signs as well as phrases - just as
>> this is needed for language courses.
>>
>> From my point of view we are still in need to compare the
>> movements that are videotaped with the signwriting-spelling options.
>>
>> If the performance of a given signer is jugded to be "weak ASL"
>> well that will do no harm to the task to document this performance
>> in SignWriting.
>>
>> Following the last postings I understand better that some DEAF
>> signers feel somehow shy or frightened if it comes to the point
>> that the spectator puts more interest in style of signing instead
>> of discussing the ideas he tries to express in his language. SW
>> allows to document this performance on a scale from scientific
>> exact to kind of every day style ...
>>
>> If we are interested to spread the use of SW it would be great to
>> collect as many of different SW documents from various sources ...
>>
>> So if Jake does not mind it would be great to match some videos to
>> SL videos.
>>
>> Just my mind.
>> <image001.jpg>
>>
>>
>> Stefan ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:sw-l-
>> bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2007 22:41
>> An: List SignWriting
>> Betreff: Re: [sw-l] RocketSigns
>>
>> Ha! Maybe instead of using an English script, if the script had been
>> written in ASL with SignWriting directly, the discussion would have
>> become more ASL! Good reason to use SignWriting ;-)
>>
>> And you are right about signing from an English script ...that is
>> bound to have some influence I would think...and maybe he realized he
>> was signing to hearing people who do not know that much...that
>> changes a person's language sometimes too...
>>
>> And we can't judge the course itself without seeing it... Thanks for
>> your input everyone -
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
>> ----------
>>
>>
>> On Dec 12, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Stuart Thiessen wrote:
>>
>> > I would agree with Cherie that he does have a strong English accent
>> > to his signing on the video promotion. :) That could be a by
>> > product of using an English script to plan what he will say in the
>> > promo video or if they wrote the English first for subtitling and
>> > then signed the "ASL" based on the English script. The rest of the
>> > package would have to be evaluated to see if it truly taught ASL or
>> > not. His topics are certainly good topics that he will discuss.
>> > Without further details, it is hard to say.
>> >
>> > my 2¢,
>> >
>> > Stuart
>> > On 12 Dec 2007, at 14:47 , Cherie Wren wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
>> >> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home
>> >> page..."
>> >>
>> >> Its not ASL, if the video of Jake talking about his course is any
>> >> indication. He is signing straight English word order.. Of
>> >> course, you can write signed English in SW, I just have objections
>> >> to it being marketed as an ASL course...
>> >>
>> >> ---------------------------------
>> >> Cherie Wren
>> >> GSD Science Teacher
>> >> 232 Perry Farm Rd
>> >> Cave Spring, GA 30124
>> >> 706-777-2328
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> 1. Curious for your opinion... (Valerie Sutton)
>> >> 2. Re: Curious for your opinion... (GerardM)
>> >> 3. Re: Curious for your opinion... (Rodrigo Ferreira Bagni)
>> >> 4. Re: Curious for your opinion... (Valerie Sutton)
>> >> 5. Re: Curious for your opinion... ( Adam Frost )
>> >> 6. Re: Curious for your opinion... ( Adam Frost )
>> >>
>> >> ----- Message from "Valerie Sutton" <signwriting at mac.com> on Wed,
>> >> 12 Dec 2007 10:38:42 -0800 -----
>> >> To:
>> >> " SignWriting List " <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> >> Subject:
>> >> [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>> >>
>> >> SignWriting List
>> >> December 12, 2007
>> >>
>> >> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
>> >> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home
>> >> page...
>> >>
>> >> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/
>> specialoffer.php
>> >>
>> >> Have you ever seen this new course?
>> >>
>> >> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in
>> SignWriting.
>> >>
>> >> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>> >>
>> >> Val ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Message from GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> on Wed, 12
>> >> Dec 2007 20:00:22 +0100 -----
>> >> To:
>> >> " SignWriting List " <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> >> Subject:
>> >> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>> >>
>> >> Hoi,
>> >> They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful
>> >> drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now
>> >> obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake does
>> >> not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his
>> >> opinion about SignWriting ... :)
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Gerard
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> SignWriting List
>> >> December 12, 2007
>> >>
>> >> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
>> >> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home
>> >> page...
>> >>
>> >> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/
>> specialoffer.php
>> >>
>> >> Have you ever seen this new course?
>> >>
>> >> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in
>> SignWriting.
>> >>
>> >> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>> >>
>> >> Val ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> ----- Message from "Rodrigo Ferreira Bagni" <rodbagni at gmail.com>
>> >> on Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:08:51 -0300 -----
>> >> To:
>> >> " SignWriting List " <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> >> Subject:
>> >> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>> >>
>> >> Maybe not.
>> >> Because he says that it is difficult to read the pictures and
>> >> drawings because they are bad.
>> >> In case of SignWriting it is different, you can read the sign very
>> >> well, but first you have to learn it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 12, 2007 4:00 PM, GerardM <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Hoi,
>> >> They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful
>> >> drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now
>> >> obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake does
>> >> not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his
>> >> opinion about SignWriting ... :)
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Gerard
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> SignWriting List
>> >> December 12, 2007
>> >>
>> >> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
>> >> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home
>> >> page...
>> >>
>> >> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/
>> specialoffer.php
>> >>
>> >> Have you ever seen this new course?
>> >>
>> >> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in
>> SignWriting.
>> >>
>> >> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>> >>
>> >> Val ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> --
>> >> Rodrigo Ferreira Bagni
>> >> ----- Message from "Valerie Sutton" <signwriting at mac.com> on Wed,
>> >> 12 Dec 2007 11:10:47 -0800 -----
>> >> To:
>> >> " SignWriting List " <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> >> Subject:
>> >> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>> >>
>> >> SignWriting List
>> >> December 12, 2007
>> >>
>> >> Gerard -
>> >> It doesn't matter what Jake's opinion is about SignWriting!
>> >> Obviously, if he has never heard of it, or does not know it,
>> then his
>> >> opinion can only be that of a person who does not know it
>> yet...but
>> >> when he learns SignWriting later...then his opinion will have
>> >> importance...
>> >>
>> >> I have never met Jake, but I look forward to meeting him soon!
>> >>
>> >> My question is to the ASL users...if the course Jake teaches is
>> good
>> >> ASL, and is a helpful course to people without SignWriting,
>> then it
>> >> will be a wonderful tool for us to write it in SignWriting, which
>> >> will then be an added help to Jake's students...
>> >>
>> >> People in the Sign Language worlds do not realize there is a
>> way to
>> >> write their language yet, and this would be a good way to
>> collaborate
>> >> with Jake, with his permission of course, to spread the idea that
>> >> there is a way to write the language now...
>> >>
>> >> But first I want the opinion of the ASL signwriters as to whether
>> >> this course would be a good one to work with...
>> >>
>> >> There are several courses in ASL that only use video, and we could
>> >> contact any one f them and ask permission to write those
>> courses in
>> >> SignWriting, giving an added support for ASL students...
>> >>
>> >> So I am just curious about opinions on the ASL course and
>> should we
>> >> contact Jake about adding some SignWriting?
>> >>
>> >> All people, when they first hear about SignWriting, are surprised,
>> >> but once they learn it I have never met a person who is against
>> >> it...the only people who are against it, are those who do not know
>> >> it...
>> >>
>> >> Val ;-)
>> >>
>> >> ----------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 12, 2007, at 11:00 AM, GerardM wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hoi,
>> >> > They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful
>> >> > drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now
>> >> > obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake
>> does
>> >> > not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his
>> >> > opinion about SignWriting ... :)
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Gerard
>> >> >
>> >> > On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > SignWriting List
>> >> > December 12, 2007
>> >> >
>> >> > I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
>> >> > started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home
>> >> page...
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/
>> >> specialoffer.php
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you ever seen this new course?
>> >> >
>> >> > We could write to them to ask permission to write it in
>> >> SignWriting.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you think that would be a good idea?
>> >> >
>> >> > Val ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ____________________________________________
>> >> >
>> >> > SW-L SignWriting List
>> >> >
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ____________________________________________
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Message from Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com > on Wed, 12
>> >> Dec 2007 19:11:29 +0000 -----
>> >> To:
>> >> "SW List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> >> Subject:
>> >> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>> >>
>> >> I was just looking at the address. I live right by where they are
>> >> based. Might be something to look into. ;)
>> >>
>> >> Adam
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: "Valerie Sutton" <signwriting at mac.com>
>> >>
>> >> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:38:42
>> >> To:" SignWriting List " <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> >> Subject: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> SignWriting List
>> >> December 12, 2007
>> >>
>> >> I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
>> >> started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home
>> >> page...
>> >>
>> >> http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/
>> specialoffer.php
>> >>
>> >> Have you ever seen this new course?
>> >>
>> >> We could write to them to ask permission to write it in
>> SignWriting.
>> >>
>> >> Do you think that would be a good idea?
>> >>
>> >> Val ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ____________________________________________
>> >>
>> >> SW-L SignWriting List
>> >>
>> >> Post Message
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Message from Adam Frost <icemandeaf at gmail.com > on Wed, 12
>> >> Dec 2007 19:15:25 +0000 -----
>> >> To:
>> >> "SW List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> >> Subject:
>> >> Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>> >>
>> >> I haven't had a chance to look at the videos because I am at work
>> >> at the moment.
>> >>
>> >> Adam
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: "Valerie Sutton" <signwriting at mac.com>
>> >>
>> >> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:10:47
>> >> To:" SignWriting List " <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> >> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Curious for your opinion...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> SignWriting List
>> >> December 12, 2007
>> >>
>> >> Gerard -
>> >> It doesn't matter what Jake's opinion is about SignWriting!
>> >> Obviously, if he has never heard of it, or does not know it,
>> then his
>> >> opinion can only be that of a person who does not know it
>> yet...but
>> >> when he learns SignWriting later...then his opinion will have
>> >> importance...
>> >>
>> >> I have never met Jake, but I look forward to meeting him soon!
>> >>
>> >> My question is to the ASL users...if the course Jake teaches is
>> good
>> >> ASL, and is a helpful course to people without SignWriting,
>> then it
>> >> will be a wonderful tool for us to write it in SignWriting, which
>> >> will then be an added help to Jake's students...
>> >>
>> >> People in the Sign Language worlds do not realize there is a
>> way to
>> >> write their language yet, and this would be a good way to
>> collaborate
>> >> with Jake, with his permission of course, to spread the idea that
>> >> there is a way to write the language now...
>> >>
>> >> But first I want the opinion of the ASL signwriters as to whether
>> >> this course would be a good one to work with...
>> >>
>> >> There are several courses in ASL that only use video, and we could
>> >> contact any one f them and ask permission to write those
>> courses in
>> >> SignWriting, giving an added support for ASL students...
>> >>
>> >> So I am just curious about opinions on the ASL course and
>> should we
>> >> contact Jake about adding some SignWriting?
>> >>
>> >> All people, when they first hear about SignWriting, are surprised,
>> >> but once they learn it I have never met a person who is against
>> >> it...the only people who are against it, are those who do not know
>> >> it...
>> >>
>> >> Val ;-)
>> >>
>> >> ----------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 12, 2007, at 11:00 AM, GerardM wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hoi,
>> >> > They advertise that they do not have weird and wonderful
>> >> > drawings ... and that you as a student do not need them :) Now
>> >> > obviously, SignWriting is writing ASL but I am sure that Jake
>> does
>> >> > not know about SignWriting and if he does I am interested in his
>> >> > opinion about SignWriting ... :)
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Gerard
>> >> >
>> >> > On Dec 12, 2007 7:38 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > SignWriting List
>> >> > December 12, 2007
>> >> >
>> >> > I am curious what all of you think of this new ASL course, that
>> >> > started advertizing through Google ads on our SignWriting home
>> >> page...
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.rocketlanguages.com/sign-language/premium/
>> >> specialoffer.php
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you ever seen this new course?
>> >> >
>> >> > We could write to them to ask permission to write it in
>> >> SignWriting.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you think that would be a good idea?
>> >> >
>> >> > Val ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ____________________________________________
>> >> >
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