South Korean handshape

[Charles Butler]

Just for additional information, this handshape is also used in Hebrew ritual.  It is the hand that shows the Kaddish cup and it is called "the rose".

Charles Butler


Jason Hopkins <codenosher at YAHOO.COM> wrote: None of the fingers touch.

They should all be straight or at least comfortably straight.  I don't think there is a difference between strait or slightly curved, but the signer 'thinks' they are straight, but it is much more natural curved.  

The spacing between fingers seems to be equally distributed.

As the sign gets bigger, the fingers curve more.  

I'm not sure as to the sizes.  I can check.  The Swedish signer told me her language has this shape in three sizes, small (fingers touching), medium (as shown) and large.

-Jason

----- Original Message ----
From: Valerie Sutton  <signwriting at MAC.COM>
To: List SignWriting <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] South Korean handshape

Hi Steve and Jason!
Yes...this handshape will be a variation no matter what because it  
has to be placed in-between two handshapes that already exist.

But Jason, Steve's question is a good one. If there are variations as  
to the size of the diameter, I can place several different choices of  
size of diameter as variations. This means you can click on the  
Variations Key to get different variations of size of that handshape:





The Variations Key, which stems from SignWriter DOS, and was re- 
implemented by Steve, into SignPuddle, serves two functions. First,  
it gives different sizes of symbols. Many of the Movement Arrows were  
designed with a Small, Medium and  Large Variations. Second, it  
provides a way to insert new symbols, in-between existing symbols, so  
the Sequence of symbols is in the correct order, but the ID numbers  
of existing symbols do not have to be changed.

Val ;-)

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On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:56 AM, Steve Slevinski wrote:

> Hi Val,
>
> This might be a good place to use variations because Jason wrote  
> "Korea seems to use it as a classifier, therefore, it can get  
> bigger or smaller - the diameter changes."
>
> Jason, can you describe how small and large the diameter can be?
>
> -Steve
>
> Valerie Sutton wrote:
>> On Jun 29, 2007, at 8:30 AM, Jason Hopkins wrote:
>>> Just so you know, the index does not touch the thumb, it just  
>>> looks that way :)
>>> I was told they use that  handshape in Sweden, too.  Korea seems  
>>> to use it as a classifier, therefore, it can get bigger or  
>>> smaller - the diameter changes.
>>
>> My goodness! I assumed the index and thumb touched. Pictures are  
>> not perfect either, are they?!
>>
>> So these are just relaxed fingers in a slight curve, projected  
>> forward...Do any fingers touch each other? Are the middle and ring  
>> fingers touching on purpose?
>>
>> And what about the space between the index and middle fingers? Is  
>> that important?
>>
>> I assume this is a spread Angle-Oval that is curved and  
>> relaxed...and no fingers touch each other...agreed?
>>
>> Thank you, Jason!
>>
>>
>>
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