Contact symbol put where? :-)

Valerie Sutton signwriting at MAC.COM
Tue May 1 03:09:38 UTC 2007

SignWriting List
April 30, 2007

On Apr 30, 2007, at 7:53 PM, Adam Frost wrote:
> Hmm... I was looking at others of my writing, and it looks as  
> though the rule that I said is not what I do. So I thought about it  
> hard. (Made a few people around me wonder what was wrong. Ha!)  
> Maybe it is that I place the contact under the handshape unless  
> there is a symbol already under (ie Stuart's sign name or table).  
> So Val, with your question I would choose the contacts under. Not  
> on the side. Glad that we are having the discussion. :-)

ha! Well, Adam, actually I understand what is going on here...

There is no question that your original rule makes perfect sense  
related to the Position of Contact, when there are ARROWS relating to  
the contact symbols, like this...and when the contact stars are  
stacked to the side...(continued below)...

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But what has happened is, that we oftentimes do not write arrows, and  
over time, the arrows became unimportant to the scenario. Plus, in  
our IMWA we do not have the possiblity to stack the two stars in an  
automatic way...When there are no arrows, I was placing the double  
contact underneath except for directly overhead...that is why Stuart  
and my writing were different...but i think I was wrong, because  
Stuart and you both instinctively feel Stuart's writing is I think there is another way to word this rule...

The case to the side is the exception. When there are no arrows for  
the movement to the side, we might be able to place the contact stars  

Perhaps either or will be ok to the side...

Let me try to write this new Spelling Rule with all its possible  
points of view, and see what you all think later...

I can imagine that beginners on this List must be absolutely  
overwhelmed by all this! But this is how our Spelling Rules were  
developed...with long discussions with our DAC members...we have four  
DAC members now and they are really helping us pin some things down!

Val ;-)

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