signwriting at MAC.COM
Sat May 5 17:02:25 UTC 2007
May 5, 2007
>> On May 5, 2007, at 12:35 AM, Sandy Fleming wrote:
>> When the user selects to draw an arm, the computer decides on a
>> position for the elbow and draws the forearm from the wrist of the
>> to the elbow, and an upper arm from the elbow to the shoulder. It
>> allows the user to drag the elbow into the position he really
>> wants with
>> the mouse (or by using the arrow keys), and the arm lines move
>> with it,
>> while saying attached to the wrist and shoulder.
This sounds terrific, Sandy!
I am happy there are programmers like yourself to make this all
And I like the program you already started...it has promise and I am
interested in finding funding for it...
When it comes to the arms and legs, I see that as a Full-Body
computerization for DanceWriting, Skateboard writing, and the entire
system, rather than just for SignWriting, which has limited use of
arm lines...so there are two worlds...SignWriting...and full Movement
The IMWA was never meant to be used by programmers in its full form,
believe it or not...
It was a big closet for me to store all the symbols...I assumed it
would be honed down by programmers...
But Steve made it possible for us to use it immediately and that was
a wonderful blessing...it helps all of us be able to discuss this
issue...so I am grateful for SignPuddle's use of the IMWA as it is
now. But we must move forward to a cleaner symbolset just for signed
languages, and we all know that.
SignWriter DOS never included all those rotations and flops...I only
entered four out of 16 in the SignWriter DOS symbol editor program
that Rich Gleaves devised, and the rest was done with programming by
Rich Gleaves. He programmed all the flops and rotations for the
symbols. But it was very complex and not simple at all...because not
all symbols flop and rotate the same...so there was one programming
exception after the other...But then Rich left for a job that paid
him at Qualcomm...totally understandable!....and I was left with an
old program that was not up-to-date and it did not include all the
symbols...so I started a big closet for the IMWA without any
programming involved...just a big closet for all the symbols...
So I was dealing with my circumstances as they were at the time...
I am very grateful to all of you, for programming with all these
symbols...and whatever you devise to improve the situation is
I love your idea about drawing the arms and legs Sandy - I think your
program has great promise and hopefully we can move forward
together...maybe we can get you funding to program from the European
Community...there is a movement toward finding European funding now
for SignWriting...but maybe we can find funding for programming
DanceWriting and Full Body writing too...
Your program with the legs and arm writing, would help us enormously
with DanceWriting and other Full-Body writings...like the attached
Skateboard writing. For DanceWriting, I am being driven crazy by all
the possible arm and leg configurations, so your solution sounds
excellent to me! I am interested in getting a way to write a stick
figure easily by computer, that is not necessarily required for
SignWriting, but is required for Full-Body writing...
Let's find you some funding...
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