Vertical Mundbildschrift (?)
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Sat May 12 16:51:16 UTC 2007
May 12, 2007
Adam Frost wrote:
> I am guessing that Mundbildschrift means something like mouth
> movements. If I am right, then this is something on my list to get
> aquired knowledged of. ASL also have very important adverbs that
> are on the mouth.
Hello Stefan, Adam, Sandy, Charles and everyone -
Stefan has terminology in German that explains this best. That is why
I someday want to find a good translation for our English language,
so we can understand it better...
So please forgive, Stefan, if I do not explain this correctly ;-))
Feel free to tell us!
This is my understanding...
There are three ways to write facial expressions and mouth movements...
1. SignWriting Facial Expression Symbols
Used to write the natural mouth movements that occur while signing by
This we have always done from the beginning of SignWriting in
1974...except we need to standardize it and improve our analysis over
time...the Adverbs on the Mouth in ASL, that Adam mentions above, are
already explained in a long article in ASL by George Butch
Zein...there are two places to read the article:
SignPuddle ASL Literature
ASL Facial Adverbs Web Article
2. Mundbilder - Writes MOUTHING of spoken language words while signing
Stefan worked on standardizing how the MOUTHING of German words is
written while writing SignWriting of DGS (German Sign Language)
DGS does not use fingerspelling like we do in ASL, so MOUTHING is a
part of DGS...an actual part of their language that is a part of the
Deaf Community in Germany...they MOUTH more than ASL does...The Sign
Languages of Northern Europe seem to depend on MOUTHING more for
information, instead of fingerspelling...
Mundbilder could be developed for the writing of MOUTHING of other
signed languages and spoken languages too...
we could call it in English: MOUTHING WRITING ;-))
3. Mundbildschrift - Writes the movements of WHAT YOU SEE and also
WHAT YOU CANNOT SEE while reading the lips of a person speaking in
This is a form of SignWriting symbols that Stefan then developed
further, to represent standardized ways of writing speech movement
that can be memorized to help a Deaf child learn to pronounce words
better and also to learn to read the German spoken language
better...Stefan teaches in a school where he is the only teacher who
uses Sign Language with his Deaf students...all the other teachers
have oral classrooms...but now, because Stefan's students are doing
so well in school...other teachers are starting to take
notice...Mundbildschrift is actually opening the door for other
teachers to be introduced to Sign Language and SignWriting...an
indirect result that is very positive!! Plus Mundbildshrift really
works for teaching spoken German to his students...
I believe that we all have to live in the cultures we live in....and
do the best we can for the world within our own environments...
I cannot imagine how hard it must be to be the only teacher in an
oral school that uses Sign Language, with all the other teachers oral...
So Mundbilder and Mundbildschrift have a place in the writing system
and need to be understood better and explained in English
better..something I hope we can do in the translation of Stefan's
textbook from German to English...which we are working on together
Regarding writing it vertically - I think that is an interesting idea
that should be explored!!
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