Wiki article on SignWriting

CWren at DOE.K12.GA.US CWren at DOE.K12.GA.US
Mon May 21 12:08:33 UTC 2007

  This is the picture I was thinking of, but its using the stokoe 
handshapes from this picture    Which I still have no idea where it came 
form.  So although I think they would be great information for the SW 
article, I have no way to determine the license for the picture of 
Stokoe's handshapes. 

Cherie Wren
GSD Staff Interpreter
232 Perry Farm Rd
Cave Spring, GA 30124
706-766-0766 Cell

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Re: [sw-l] Wiki article on SignWriting

No, the Stokoe handshapes I am referring to are pictures of the basic 
handshapes in ASL as described by Stokoe when he set out the linguistic 
principles of ASL;  not any symbols from his system, they are pictures of 
hands-- a fist, a B hand, an e hand, a open 8, a claw, a bent v...  all 
the basic shapes.  Like the Gallaudet font has pictures of the hands 
making the alphabet handshapes...  I must not have gotten the picture from 
your website, since you don't recognize what I'm talking about.  ::smile:: 
I'll send it from work Monday, so you can see what I mean, maybe I am just 
not describing it well. 

Thanks for permission to use other images.  I didn't want to just assume 
it was okay.


----- Original Message ----
From: Valerie Sutton <signwriting at MAC.COM>
To: sw-l at
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 12:39:58 PM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] Wiki article on SignWriting

On May 19, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Cherie Wren wrote:
> In order to add any images, you have to determine a license and 
> upload them.  For things I have written or created myself, I can 
> upload them with an "I did this myself" license.  For anything 
> else, its gets so complicated I have been afraid to try.  I could 
> create something with the basic handshapes and put it in.  someone 
> on the discussion page asked to see something with pictures of 
> handshapes and their corresponding symbols.  I saw something like 
> that with all the Stokoe handshapes and their SW equivalent 
> somewhere in the SW website, but because I didn't create it, I 
> would need permission from the creator to put it up there;  posting 
> it there then makes it free for anyone to use.  Do you know which 
> picture I'm talking about?  Did you make it, or know who did?  I 
> have it at work, not here, so I can't attach it.  If we could 
> figure out the license, that would be the best picture to use, I 
> think.  In the meantime, I will work on creating something with the 
> basic handshapes.
> cherie

Cherie -
My goodness...of course you have my full permission to use any 
diagrams of SignWriting and Sutton Movement Writing...but please do 
not use diagrams from the Stokoe system or other systems...let's just 
teach the SignWriting symbols as you are doing...SignWriting is our 
system and that is free for anyone to post and use anywhere...

Obviously I give you FULL and FREE permission to post any SignWriting 
or Movement Writing symbols and diagrams related to, or included in 
Sutton Movement Writing and SignWriting...

and I never post anything on our SignWriting-related web sites that I 
do not want people to use...everything is there for people to use 
freely and without restriction...

I realize that Wikipedia has licenses and I agree that I too should 
learn about them, but don't let that make you feel that I am 
restricting anyone! Just the opposite...I feel that NO restrictions 
should apply...

You have my FULL permission to post these and place them under a FREE 
license of any kind you see fit... (see attached)...or just link to 
them at:

All the symbols are there on the web in lessons...

Grab them all from those web pages and post them with my full 

Val ;-)

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