Background colour?

[Valerie Sutton]

Kelly Jo -
Forgetting all the colors for one moment...it is necessary to have  
the palms painted white because it is the only way that we can see  
that one palm is on top of another...when one is publishing with a  
computer, and just using black ink on white paper...

Take a look at this sign...everyone on the List discussed this at  
length long ago and voted to have the white palms so that we can  
really see one hand in front of the other...I spent three months  
coloring all the palms white for this reason, and the white  
arrowheads are also painted white in the new ISWA...this work was  
done last summer....



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If the palm was not white in the example above, we would not know  
which hand was in front of the other....

Now when it comes to these colors, which just started two days ago, I  
saw the problem immediately, and Steve and I talked about it  
briefly...but if I had to choose between the issues of color versus  
showing one hand properly in front of the other, I would choose the  
white palms anytime because it gives us information for meaning...the  
color is for fun, but the meaning of the white palm should take  
precedence...

Val ;-)

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On Nov 9, 2007, at 8:52 PM, K.J. Boal wrote:

> You mean you're changing it so the palms are always white???   
> That's the part that looks wrong to me!  I like the ones with palms  
> that are the background colour.  After all, if you were writing by  
> hand on a piece of coloured paper, would you take a white pencil  
> crayon to fill in the palms as well as the back of the hands?  I  
> wouldn't.  I think I understand why you're doing it, in keeping  
> with "palms lighter than the back of the hands" ... but what  
> happens if you make the signs white?  Won't this programming make  
> the right hand palm-facing-you look identical to a left hand palm- 
> facing-away?
>
> Actually, I've just tried it . . . it really doesn't want to make  
> the signs pure white, does it? (first picture)  Okay, the next  
> colour over to white, that one shows - and yes, it's almost  
> impossible to tell that the top one is palm facing you, and the  
> bottom one is looking at the back of your hand.  Sorry, Val, but I  
> think you might want to rethink . . .
>
> KJ
>
>
> > From: signwriting at mac.com
> > Subject: Re: [sw-l] Background colour?
> > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 20:21:36 -0800
> > To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >
> > On Nov 9, 2007, at 8:04 PM, K.J. Boal wrote:
> > > By the way, I meant to ask this a moment ago before I got
> > > sidetracked . . . ;-) What's going on with the palms here? The 1-
> > > hand and closed-O hand both still have white in them for the palm,
> > > but the Y-hands later on have changed the palm to match the
> > > background. Did you know about that, Steve? It looks like it
> > > works properly for most handshapes - and I do love the option!
> > > KJ
> >
> >
> > Hi Kelly Jo -
> > That has to do with the ISWA symbols. I have already made all the
> > handshapes with the proper white palms now in all the handshapes  
> here
> > on my local computer, but we have not installed the new ISWA yet  
> into
> > SignPuddle, so right now the old IMWA symbol set only has a few
> > handshapes with the white palms...because at the time that the old
> > IMWA was installed in SignPuddle, I hadn't finished making all the
> > palms white yet...so when the new ISWA is released in January at the
> > same time that Steve releases the new source code for SignText...at
> > that time the new ISWA will be installed into SignPuddle and all the
> > palms will be white...
> >
> > Although I have already fixed all the symbols to be white, it is an
> > enormous job to install the symbols so they have to be installed all
> > at once in January...
> >
> > So until then, live with it! ;-))
> >
> > But aren't these colors beautiful? Thank you, Steve, for this...I
> > love looking at it...
> >
> > Val ;-)
> >
> >
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