ISWA Thumb Standardization?

[Stuart Thiessen]

Visually, I think 
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  looks more natural, but then it conflicts in meaning with 
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. Essentially, we have two meanings for the thumb expressed with this  
thumb symbol. It can either mean thumb out or it can mean thumb flush  
on the side of the hand. Suppose I did 
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  but meant my thumb was flush to the side of the hand? I wouldn't  
have a clear way to express that because of the double meaning. I  
don't think it matters a whole lot which symbol is used for what, but  
I do think that the symbol we choose should be consistent across the  
system. So if we want to keep 
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  as far as a visual look, then 
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  should be changed to match 
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  or we should change everything to match 
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.  Either way will work fine. I think that 
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  is the odd one and maybe it needs to solved with a different kind of  
thumb symbol that means flush to the side.

Thanks,

Stuart

On 17 Nov 2007, at 17:38 , Valerie Sutton wrote:

> SignWriting List
> November 17, 2007
>
> On Nov 17, 2007, at 3:08 PM, Stuart Thiessen wrote:
>> One other possible inconsistency ... There is also the one odd  
>> instance like the handshape for the ASL "A" which has the thumb  
>> "out" but it really means the thumb flush to the side of the hand.  
>> That is another inconsistency that occurs with the thumb in the  
>> "relaxed" position.
>>
>> I personally think it is a good idea to keep symbols having a  
>> consistent meaning because it makes it easier to learn the system.  
>> Once you see a finger symbol used in one place, you can assume it  
>> has the same meaning on other handshapes. Now is a good time to  
>> make those types of consistency changes with the publication of the  
>> ISWA. I know it means a lot of work on this side of things, but I  
>> think it would mean less work on the other side of things.
>>
>> If the straight line means thumb out to the side, then maybe the  
>> thumb as it is in the ASL "A" handshape can be used to say thumb  
>> flush to the side of the fist?
>
>
> So you would choose the Parkhurst thumbs for "to the side" but keep  
> the A as it is?
>
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