Gagnon et Thibeault
atg at VIDEOTRON.CA
Fri Oct 5 13:01:47 UTC 2007
Hi Val and everyone,
You are right to show me the double-stemmed arrows to the wrist circles
parallel to the front wall in the attached diagram.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Valerie Sutton" <dac at signwriting.org>
To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] Wrist circle
> SignWriting List
> October 4, 2007
> Andre from French-Canada wrote:
>> I agree totally with Deaf kids because it is very important to be
>> "appropriate" a double-stemmed arrow in order to learn and apply
>> the same general rules. Should a wrist circle with parallel front
>> wall change from the single-stemmed arrow to the double-stemmed
>> arrow? Keep in mind that adults and kids do not have the same
>> learning process. I believe that Deaf kids are right to apply the
>> general rules for the down-up movement (parallel front wall) for
>> the double-stemmed arrows, and the wrist circle with parallel front
>> wall for a double-stemmed arrow double-stemmed arrows.
>> Unfortunately, SignPuddle 1.5 is designed only with wrist circles
>> using single-stemmed arrows....
> The Circle Symbols have gone through several changes over the years.
> We are still using the Circle Symbols that were developed in 1974,
> but some of them have two versions now, as you can see in the
> attached diagram...
> You are welcome to add the double stemmed arrows to the Wrist Circles
> parallel to the Front Wall. It is consistent with the rules of
> SignWriting in general....So if that will help, that is
> fine...because it follows the double-stemmed arrows used to show
> parallel to the Front Wall.
> But the old Wrist Circle symbols from 1974 will not be thrown out.
> They can be read easily because the Circle itself does not have any
> dark section. The dark section in the other Wrist Circle that is
> moving forward and back means closer to the body...so when a Wrist
> Circle has no dark section, it has to be parallel with the Front
> Wall...because no part of the circle is ever closer to the body.
> As far as the symbols in SignPuddle...as you know I am struggling
> with too many jobs...but i am working on the new ISWA and I will try
> to include these new Wrist symbols in the new ISWA...I cannot promise
> when that will be ready however, so your Deaf students will have to
> construct their own wrist symbols until that time, or just use the
> old ones...;-)
> Please say "hello" to your Deaf students and teachers for me and tell
> them that I think it is very exciting to get their feedback!
> I hope they can show us some of their writing someday...send us
> pictures of them writing and I will be happy to post it on the web in
> a special area for their classroom --- Val ;-)
> see attached...
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