Handwriting

Mon Dec 8 17:11:12 UTC 2008

Hi Val and everyone,

    Val, thank you for advising me.

    I already sent a LSQ curriculum from kindergarden junior to grade 6th  (inclusding SW reading and SW writing) to Ontario Ministry of Education (Canada) (provincial government). Using a handprinting is from kindergarden junior to grade 6th.  Then, using a handwriting (quick daily writing) is from grade 7th to grade 12th.  I wish that I would like to distribute you a LSQ curriculum (French language). However, I have a contract with Ontario Ministry of Education which doesn't allow me to distribute it to anyone.

    If Ontario Ministry of Education approves a LSQ curriculum, I can distribute it to you.

    Hand waving

    André

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Valerie Sutton 
  To: SignWriting List 
  Cc: Gagnon et Thibeault 
  Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:35 AM
  Subject: Re: [sw-l] Handwriting

  SignWriting List
  December 8, 2008

  Hello Andre -
  In a SignWriting curriculum, for children, I would put learning SW Handwriting in the third year...

  Just as it explains on these web pages:

  http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs003.html

  and

  http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs004.html

  In any written form, writing in a "faster cursive style" takes skill. Plus SignWriting does not have the documentation ready for teaching formal SW Handwriting...

  Therefore, when we were young children learning to write English characters, we did not start by learning English cursive-handwriting...we started with hand-printing each English character carefully, writing them in rows and rows until we became skilled...

  Then, after learning how to write in this perfect hand-printing style, after around the second grade...for me it was in the third grade...I started to learn to write real handwriting in school (for English)...so based on that experience, I suggest that SW handprinting should be taught the first two years of a SignWriting curriculum, and the SW handwriting starts around the third year in school...

  Stefan has some experience with this...His student, Eduard, who is writing in the picture on the front page of our web site, is a skilled SignWriting student, having been in Stefan's classroom for several years...so he started the handwriting later, after getting familiar with SW in general...

  So that is my advice...Your students and teachers are beginners or at least, in their first year of learning and using SW, so maybe the handwriting should wait until next year?

  But they could try some of these Handprinting techniques right now:

  http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs011.html

  Val ;-)

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  On Dec 8, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:

    Hi Val, Anne-Claude and everyone,

     Anny,  I don't ask that you translate a SW handwriting's web pages.   You translate only two words : handprinting and handwriting.

            I mean that I need only a section "Quick dailly writing". I am writing a LSQ curriculum for a SW writing.  I understand that you need to write new books.  No problem.  I am trying  better to describe a SW handwriting (quick daily writing).

        I believe that Deaf students write a SW handprinting because teachers don't know about SW handwriting norms (Quick daily writing).

        Hand waving

        André
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Valerie Sutton
      To: SignWriting List
      Cc: Gagnon et Thibeault
      Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:12 AM
      Subject: Re: [sw-l] Handwriting

      SignWriting List
      December 8, 2008

      Hello Andre and Anny -
      There is no document to translate...smile...but there are web pages.

      If you follow all the links on this web page:

      SignWriting Handwriting
      http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/

      There are six sections and each section has several web pages...I do not know if Andre really needs a translation of those web pages into French?

      I have nothing else to give you right now, Andre...More books on Handwriting will have to wait for awhile, since I am so behind on other books that need to be updated...

      Have you seen the front page of our web site? Stefan's Deaf student Eduard is quite an artist with SW calligraphy, don't you think?

      SignWriting HomePage
      http://www.SignWriting.org

      Stefan will be sending us more photos of the finished art later...i look forward to seeing them!

      And I believe that Kim from Boston has also done some SW calligraphy...

      Kim's work
      http://www.signwriting.org/usa/massachusetts/

      Val ;-)

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      On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:55 AM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:

        andré

        what kind of document do you need to get translated from english into french ?!?!?!

        let me know

        Anny

        Le 8 déc. 08 à 15:43, Gagnon et Thibeault a écrit :

          Hi Anne-Claude, Val and everyone,

              Anny, I would like you to translate a handprinting and a handwriting        from English to French?

              Val, I am writing a LSQ curriculum from grade 7th to 8th  including SW reading and SW writing now.  But, I don't know about handwriting        norms.  I would like you to explain me handwriting norms in general.  You remember that you gave a handwriting course to some participants one year ago.  I love learning it.   I don't mean that participants do their homework but they read only instructions.  Would you give us general explanations or instructions  of handwriting norms which help me write and explain a LSQ curriculum including SW writing ? You don't need an explanation of the handprinting.

              Best regards,

              André

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