Handwriting
Valerie Sutton
signwriting at MAC.COM
Mon Dec 8 17:17:24 UTC 2008
SignWriting List
December 8, 2008
This is wonderful news, Andre! Congratulations on accomplishing the
planning of a SW curriculum...I am very excited about this and look
forward later, to learning more about it...(no rush ;-))
Val ;-)
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On Dec 8, 2008, at 9:11 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
> Hi Val and everyone,
>
> Val, thank you for advising me.
>
> I already sent a LSQ curriculum from kindergarden junior to
> grade 6th (inclusding SW reading and SW writing) to Ontario
> Ministry of Education (Canada) (provincial government). Using a
> handprinting is from kindergarden junior to grade 6th. Then, using
> a handwriting (quick daily writing) is from grade 7th to grade
> 12th. I wish that I would like to distribute you a LSQ curriculum
> (French language). However, I have a contract with Ontario Ministry
> of Education which doesn't allow me to distribute it to anyone.
>
> If Ontario Ministry of Education approves a LSQ curriculum, I
> can distribute it to you.
>
> Hand waving
>
> André
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Valerie Sutton
> To: SignWriting List
> Cc: Gagnon et Thibeault
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Handwriting
>
> SignWriting List
> December 8, 2008
>
> Hello Andre -
> In a SignWriting curriculum, for children, I would put learning SW
> Handwriting in the third year...
>
> Just as it explains on these web pages:
>
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs003.html
>
> and
>
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs004.html
>
> In any written form, writing in a "faster cursive style" takes
> skill. Plus SignWriting does not have the documentation ready for
> teaching formal SW Handwriting...
>
> Therefore, when we were young children learning to write English
> characters, we did not start by learning English cursive-
> handwriting...we started with hand-printing each English character
> carefully, writing them in rows and rows until we became skilled...
>
> Then, after learning how to write in this perfect hand-printing
> style, after around the second grade...for me it was in the third
> grade...I started to learn to write real handwriting in school (for
> English)...so based on that experience, I suggest that SW
> handprinting should be taught the first two years of a SignWriting
> curriculum, and the SW handwriting starts around the third year in
> school...
>
> Stefan has some experience with this...His student, Eduard, who is
> writing in the picture on the front page of our web site, is a
> skilled SignWriting student, having been in Stefan's classroom for
> several years...so he started the handwriting later, after getting
> familiar with SW in general...
>
> So that is my advice...Your students and teachers are beginners or
> at least, in their first year of learning and using SW, so maybe the
> handwriting should wait until next year?
>
> But they could try some of these Handprinting techniques right now:
>
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/curs011.html
>
> Val ;-)
>
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>
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> On Dec 8, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
>
>> Hi Val, Anne-Claude and everyone,
>>
>> Anny, I don't ask that you translate a SW handwriting's web
>> pages. You translate only two words : handprinting and handwriting.
>>
>> I mean that I need only a section "Quick dailly writing". I
>> am writing a LSQ curriculum for a SW writing. I understand that
>> you need to write new books. No problem. I am trying better to
>> describe a SW handwriting (quick daily writing).
>>
>> I believe that Deaf students write a SW handprinting because
>> teachers don't know about SW handwriting norms (Quick daily writing).
>>
>> Hand waving
>>
>> André
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Valerie Sutton
>> To: SignWriting List
>> Cc: Gagnon et Thibeault
>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Handwriting
>>
>> SignWriting List
>> December 8, 2008
>>
>> Hello Andre and Anny -
>> There is no document to translate...smile...but there are web pages.
>>
>> If you follow all the links on this web page:
>>
>> SignWriting Handwriting
>> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/
>>
>> There are six sections and each section has several web pages...I
>> do not know if Andre really needs a translation of those web pages
>> into French?
>>
>> I have nothing else to give you right now, Andre...More books on
>> Handwriting will have to wait for awhile, since I am so behind on
>> other books that need to be updated...
>>
>> Have you seen the front page of our web site? Stefan's Deaf student
>> Eduard is quite an artist with SW calligraphy, don't you think?
>>
>> SignWriting HomePage
>> http://www.SignWriting.org
>>
>> Stefan will be sending us more photos of the finished art later...i
>> look forward to seeing them!
>>
>> And I believe that Kim from Boston has also done some SW
>> calligraphy...
>>
>> Kim's work
>> http://www.signwriting.org/usa/massachusetts/
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
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>>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:55 AM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
>>
>>> andré
>>>
>>> what kind of document do you need to get translated from english
>>> into french ?!?!?!
>>>
>>> let me know
>>>
>>> Anny
>>>
>>> Le 8 déc. 08 à 15:43, Gagnon et Thibeault a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Anne-Claude, Val and everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Anny, I would like you to translate a handprinting and a
>>>> handwriting from English to French?
>>>>
>>>> Val, I am writing a LSQ curriculum from grade 7th to 8th
>>>> including SW reading and SW writing now. But, I don't know about
>>>> handwriting norms. I would like you to explain me
>>>> handwriting norms in general. You remember that you gave a
>>>> handwriting course to some participants one year ago. I love
>>>> learning it. I don't mean that participants do their homework
>>>> but they read only instructions. Would you give us general
>>>> explanations or instructions of handwriting norms which help me
>>>> write and explain a LSQ curriculum including SW writing ? You
>>>> don't need an explanation of the handprinting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> André
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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