Handwriting
Kimberley Shaw
skifoot at GMAIL.COM
Mon Dec 8 19:10:07 UTC 2008
Yes, yes, Stuart, you say it so well!
To me, handwriting SW in its current form feels VERY much like writing
in Hebrew when one must use the block letters, write in all the
vowels, and include those picky grammatical marks. Much easier to use
Hebrew cursive!
I use a lot of handwritten SW for recording vocabulary in ASL class,
and for writing down songs in ASL when I'm interpreting for my chorus.
(My ASL consultant signs rather quickly when I'm learning a new song
from her; it's been great transcription practice.)
I've got shortcuts of my own (see my posting from July 08 with
attached "Over the Rainbow" rendition), but it does not yet flow as
easily as writing Hebrew cursive.
What I do love, however, is that a Deaf buddy of mine, who does
theatrical interpreting himself, can read my handwriting without
having really studied SW! I think there's more wiggle room than people
realize for an imperfectly- or partially-SW text to nevertheless be
understandable to an ASL-fluent person.
Best,
Kim from Boston
On 12/8/08, Gagnon et Thibeault <atg at videotron.ca> wrote:
> Hi Stuart, Stefan, Val and everyone,
>
> Stuart, I agree with you. I need to compare between a printed forms
> and handwriiten forms.
>
> Stefan, thank you for sending us your attached sheet "HALLO" (HELLO).
> I love reading it. It is wonderful for your students to try to handwrite.
> Your sheet is an example of "quick daily writing". If maybe you don't like
> the sentence above, I change "learn how to handwrite or how to write by
> hand". For example, I am writing a LSQ curriculum (grade 7th)
>
>
> SW writing
>
> By the end of Grade 7, students will:
> - handwrite a basic handshape from the front wall
> - handwrite a basic handsahpe from the top view.
> -handwrite a basic palm of orientation color
> -so on
>
> Hand waving
>
> André
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stefan Wöhrmann
> To: 'SignWriting List'
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 12:47 PM
> Subject: AW: [sw-l] Handwriting
>
>
> Hi André and friends,
>
>
>
> I hesitate to answer - what I understand is that you think about a
> curriculum (?) about "quick daily SignWriting by hand" - is that true?
>
>
>
> Well- do you know André that I am teaching deaf students for years now
> reading SignWriting documents every day! But nevertheless - for some reason
> there is a big difference to become a skilled reader and to become a skilled
> scribe with SW-software. And it takes even more practice and insight and
> perhaps a higher level of reflection to write by hand. So far my best
> students would try to write by hand only very few signs. Obviously it takes
> a lot of understanding to create a visual representation of what handshape
> in which orientation is needed. Now the students have to practice and
> practice and practice lots of different handshapes and orientations. Some
> other problems are connected with proportions of different symbols and the
> way - ( the best procedure) how to write certain movement arrows ... I am
> busy to write my second book - "Learn to write SignWriting" and lots and
> lots of single tasks are to be part of this instruction course. I will keep
> you infomed. Do not hesitate to ask questions ... Attached you find a
> typical excercise sheet "hallo" written with all different kinds of pencils
> and colors ...
>
>
>
> Take care
>
>
>
> Stefan ;-)
>
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> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag von Gagnon et
> Thibeault
> Gesendet: Montag, 8. Dezember 2008 17:05
> An: Valerie Sutton; SignWriting List
> Betreff: Re: [sw-l] Handwriting
>
>
>
> Hi Val, Anne-Claude and everyone,
>
>
>
> Anny, I don't ask that you translate a SW handwriting's web pages. You
> translate only two words : handprinting and handwriting.
>
>
>
> I mean that I need only a section "Quick dailly writing". I am
> writing a LSQ curriculum for a SW writing. I understand that you need to
> write new books. No problem. I am trying better to describe a SW
> handwriting (quick daily writing).
>
>
>
> I believe that Deaf students write a SW handprinting because teachers
> don't know about SW handwriting norms (Quick daily writing).
>
>
>
> Hand waving
>
>
>
> André
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Valerie Sutton
>
> To: SignWriting List
>
> Cc: Gagnon et Thibeault
>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:12 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Handwriting
>
>
>
> SignWriting List
>
> December 8, 2008
>
>
>
> Hello Andre and Anny -
>
> There is no document to translate...smile...but there are web pages.
>
>
>
> If you follow all the links on this web page:
>
>
>
> SignWriting Handwriting
>
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/
>
>
>
> There are six sections and each section has several web pages...I do not
> know if Andre really needs a translation of those web pages into French?
>
>
>
> I have nothing else to give you right now, Andre...More books on
> Handwriting will have to wait for awhile, since I am so behind on other
> books that need to be updated...
>
>
>
> Have you seen the front page of our web site? Stefan's Deaf student
> Eduard is quite an artist with SW calligraphy, don't you think?
>
>
>
> SignWriting HomePage
>
> http://www.SignWriting.org
>
>
>
> Stefan will be sending us more photos of the finished art later...i look
> forward to seeing them!
>
>
>
> And I believe that Kim from Boston has also done some SW calligraphy...
>
>
>
> Kim's work
>
> http://www.signwriting.org/usa/massachusetts/
>
>
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
> -----------
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>
>
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:55 AM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> andré
>
>
>
> what kind of document do you need to get translated from english into
> french ?!?!?!
>
>
>
> let me know
>
>
>
> Anny
>
>
>
> Le 8 déc. 08 à 15:43, Gagnon et Thibeault a écrit :
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Anne-Claude, Val and everyone,
>
>
>
> Anny, I would like you to translate a handprinting and a handwriting
> from English to French?
>
>
>
> Val, I am writing a LSQ curriculum from grade 7th to 8th including
> SW reading and SW writing now. But, I don't know about handwriting norms.
> I would like you to explain me handwriting norms in general. You remember
> that you gave a handwriting course to some participants one year ago. I
> love learning it. I don't mean that participants do their homework but
> they read only instructions. Would you give us general explanations or
> instructions of handwriting norms which help me write and explain a LSQ
> curriculum including SW writing ? You don't need an explanation of the
> handprinting.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> André
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