printed form and signwritten form
Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod
acpg at VTXNET.CH
Tue Dec 16 08:24:42 UTC 2008
Hello André, Va and list members
thanks for the examples... it helps understand!
(please any other french speaking french correct me if I'm wrong.....)
1) PRINTING = écriture SCRIPT , version informatique
2) HANDPRINTING = écriture SCRIPT, à la main
3) HANDWRITING = écriture LIEE
4) SHORTHAND= sténographie
1) 2) 3) 4)

hope this helps
have a nice Christmas time everyone!
Anny
Le 16 déc. 08 à 04:03, Valerie Sutton a écrit :
> Adam and Andre -
> Thank you for remembering this page...I had totally forgotten it,
> and the links on our web pages are poor to it...we should do more
> signs in a chart like this...and we need to make the page more
> obvious to web visitors including me ;-))
>
> Anyway, Anny, I hope this chart helps...I guess Andre would like to
> put the words at the top of the chart in French...smile...
>
> Years ago, a linguist told me she uses the Shorthand as a cursive
> writing...maybe that should be explored someday...
>
>
> <Picture 4.png>
>
>
>
>
> --------
>
>
>
> On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Adam Frost wrote:
>
>> Here it is. :-)
>>
>> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/signs.html
>>
>> Adam
>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:32 PM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Val and everyone,
>>>
>>> No, I will try to look for finding a chart (your name in
>>> English, not SW). If I find it, I will fax it to you.
>>>
>>> Hand waving
>>>
>>> André
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Valerie Sutton
>>> To: SignWriting List
>>> Cc: Gagnon et Thibeault
>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] printed form and signwritten form
>>>
>>> SignWriting List
>>> December 15, 2008
>>>
>>> I found this web page, Andre...is this what you mean?
>>>
>>> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/cursive/handwriting/
>>> lesson101.html
>>>
>>> <Picture 3.png>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 5:53 PM, Gagnon et Thibeault wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Val and everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Val, When I learned a handwriting course, I remember that
>>>> you compare a chart for your name (Valerie) in English between
>>>> printing, handprinting and handwriting. Do you have it? If
>>>> yes, this chart helps sw-listers understand them better.
>>>>
>>>> Hand waving
>>>>
>>>> André
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Valerie Sutton
>>>> To: SignWriting List
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 7:45 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] printed form and signwritten form
>>>>
>>>> SignWriting List
>>>> December 15, 2008
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 14, 2008, at 12:22 PM, Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
>>>>> I'm not sure to understand what you mean by
>>>>> HANDWRITING / HANDPRINTING and the examples I've seen don't
>>>>> really help me to understand clearly what difference ther is
>>>>> between the 2
>>>>
>>>> Hello Anny -
>>>> I guess I can try to answer your question...
>>>>
>>>> Handwriting is a term, in English, that has several definitions
>>>> and meanings...
>>>>
>>>> One meaning for "handwriting" is cursive writing...meaning
>>>> writing that "connects letters" in a quick and more relaxed
>>>> fashion. That kind of handwriting, here in the US, is taught in
>>>> schools around third grade...and when I moved to Denmark at age
>>>> 19, I found out that the handwriting taught in Danish schools
>>>> did not look like the handwriting taught in my school in the
>>>> US...so cursive writing does vary from place to place, even when
>>>> they are trying to write the same symbols, such as a or b or
>>>> c...I could not read handwritten Danish for years because of
>>>> this education difference...
>>>>
>>>> But I could read "handprinting" in Denmark...When people took
>>>> the time to write by hand in very slow and careful perfect
>>>> letters that looked a lot like type that is printed by machine,
>>>> then i could read a, b and c and understand the Danish written
>>>> by hand...so based on that experience, I started using these terms:
>>>>
>>>> Handprinting....Writing by hand that is as perfect as you can,
>>>> making symbols as close to the printed machine form as
>>>> possible...writing block letters...sometimes called block
>>>> printing...
>>>>
>>>> Handwriting...the SignWriting equivalent to a more relaxed
>>>> "cursive" style of writing...
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that SW Handwriting is not really cursive right
>>>> now...it might be someday...there was an idea floating around in
>>>> the late 1980s that maybe our Shorthand stenography system could
>>>> become the "cursive" form of SW Handwriting, but at the moment
>>>> SW Handwriting means writing that is not "perfect" but more
>>>> relaxed...
>>>>
>>>> Does this help at all? And can anyone explain it better? I bet
>>>> you can...and please do ;-))
>>>>
>>>> and I think the idea of using the stenography as a more cursive
>>>> writing is a great idea, if we can adapt it to fit the ISWA
>>>> symbols...
>>>>
>>>> Val ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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