sign puddle help

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
June 10, 2008

Hello Brian and Adam!
Thanks to you both for your discussion, which is really important...

Adam is correct, that at this time, in the current version of  
SignPuddle, we can only Search by Symbols on individual signs in a  
dictionary, but not on SignText documents yet. We hope someday to have  
an added feature that will make it possible to Search documents as  
well as dictionaries, but the software is "not there yet"...

The Cat in the Hat is a SignText document written in the ASL  
Literature Puddle by Cherie Wren. In the ASL Literature Puddle, the  
only "individual signs" are the titles to the documents, and so the  
Literature Puddle is not the place to do the searching for individual  
signs...

You could search for individual signs, is in the ASL Dictionary  
puddle...and find a few of them possibly...but you are right that  
those exact signs, exactly the way Cherie Wren signed them and wrote  
them, have not been entered into the Dictionary as individual signs  
yet...

But if you are going to do searches, be sure to do them in the ASL  
Dictionary puddle, where there are more individual signs located...you  
will have a little more luck!

I suppose we could create a separate web page that has the exact  
English-gloss of the ASL signs in Cat in the Hat for now...Would you  
like us to do that?

Val ;-)

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On Jun 10, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Adam Frost wrote:

> Hello Brian,
>
> I will be more that willing to help you. It seems to me that you  
> would like to be able to have an ASL sign to English word  
> correlation in SignPuddle.  More specifically you are looking for  
> that relation in a document written in SignText. It is possible to  
> have that in SignText, but none of that information was written for  
> any of the Cat in the Hat pages. So there are no English word  
> correlations stored in SignPuddle for any of the Cat in the Hat pages.
>
> You also mentioned that you tried to do a Search by Symbols, but  
> were given a return of no results even when the symbols are in the  
> documents of The Cat in the Hat. This is because the searches are  
> searching for the symbols in the titles of the document. In all of  
> the Cat in the Hat pages the only title is written in English with  
> words like "Cat in the Hat 01."
>
> I am sorry that they information that you seems to be looking for  
> isn't even there because I didn't put it in there when I did the  
> editing. If you would like to have the information, you can just ask  
> me what the English correlation the the ASL sign is and I will tell  
> you. ;-)
>
> Adam
>
> On Jun 10, 2008, at 9:27 AM, Brian McQueen wrote:
>
>> Can you please help me get more out of Sign Puddle?  I can't seem to
>> find anything most of the time.  The Sign Puddle is so important!
>> Going from a sign to the English word is the most important missing
>> piece of Sign Language documentation in my opinion.  Here is an
>> example.  I am taking a word from The Cat in the Hat:
>>
>> http://screencast.com/t/scGSIxWn
>>
>> Here is the Rotate Match:
>>
>> http://screencast.com/t/NyfU9M2g
>>
>> Clicking Search gives:
>>
>> http://screencast.com/t/PJGhs2DDndD
>>
>> For some reason the signs in that post-search summary are not the  
>> same
>> as the ones I entered:
>>
>> But mostly I need to be able to look up the words!  I have a very low
>> success rate and this kind of search is exactly what I need, so I  
>> need
>> to have a higher success rate.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
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