sign puddle help

[Cherie Wren]

{"Its discouraging to be at the Cat in the Hat phase though!"}

Goodness! Cat in the Hat is simple 'children's' language in English, but is NOT AT ALL simple language in ASL, so don't be discouraged.  It ain't so easy in SW either!  ::smile::  Ask anything you want, and we'll help in any way we can.  This list is great for that. Very friendly people.

cherie





----- Original Message ----
From: Brian McQueen <mcqueenorama at gmail.com>
To: SignWriting List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:01:34 PM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] sign puddle help

I am interested in both of those so thanks for the offer!  I have a
deaf Brother-in-law, with whom I worked daily for some years, where I
learned some ASL.  Since he left my hunger for it has grown, and I
have found that we spoke a quick, slangy language based on ASL, so I
hope to use the signwriting materials to increase my vocabulary and
hopefully feed my hunger for ASL.  I did not know how I liked it until
it was gone.  I also want to talk to real people, but who has time for
such a thing nowadays!  Anyway, this signwriting is very helpful, and
I can do it in my spare time from the sofa.  Its discouraging to be at
the Cat in the Hat phase though!

No questions for now, but I'm sure I'll send you some.  Thanks for
doing that writing!

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Cherie Wren <cwterp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  The Cat in the Hat in SignPuddle is an ASL translation of the English story
> by Dr Seuss.  If you want to see the English gloss for the ASL, it won't
> necessarily make a lot of sense in English, and it will leave out a lot of
> information, because gloss is not capable of including all the subtleties
> (and some of the obvious stuff) that is included in the sign.  Lets take the
> "Cat in the Hat 01" section:  In gloss I would render it as "Sunshine none.
> Outside rain wet can't play.  [gesture: shrug with palms up] sit inside
> house.  All day cold wet."  Which in the original English was "The sun did
> not shine.  It was too wet to play.  So, we sat in the house all that cold,
> cold wet day."  Signwriting can convey the emotional "tone of voice" that
> neither written English nor gloss ('written' sign that isn't signwriting)
> can.
>
> If you are looking to learn to read SW or ASL, or to understand my version
> of the story, I would be happy to help you.
>
> cherie
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Brian McQueen <mcqueenorama at gmail.com>
> To: SignWriting List <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:27:12 PM
> Subject: [sw-l] sign puddle help
>
> Can you please help me get more out of Sign Puddle?  I can't seem to
> find anything most of the time.  The Sign Puddle is so important!
> Going from a sign to the English word is the most important missing
> piece of Sign Language documentation in my opinion.  Here is an
> example.  I am taking a word from The Cat in the Hat:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/scGSIxWn
>
> Here is the Rotate Match:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/NyfU9M2g
>
> Clicking Search gives:
>
> http://screencast.com/t/PJGhs2DDndD
>
> For some reason the signs in that post-search summary are not the same
> as the ones I entered:
>
> But mostly I need to be able to look up the words!  I have a very low
> success rate and this kind of search is exactly what I need, so I need
> to have a higher success rate.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
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