SignPuddle: More Questions from Malta

MARIA AZZOPARDI maria.azzopardi at UM.EDU.MT
Wed May 21 07:39:45 UTC 2008


Thank you Valerie, for your patience with me.
I assure you it's as clear as crystal to me now :))

Maria

> SignWriting List
> May 20, 2008
>
> Hello Maria and Everyone!
> Thank you for your questions...see below...
>
> Maria wrote:
>> Would you mind if I give you a concrete example of what I'm asking,
>> just
>> to make sure I'm clear? Say for example I'm signwriting a simple
>> sentence
>> 'BOY-WOKE UP-MORNING'. After signwriting BOY I'd then like to simply
>> insert the sign WAKE-UP, that is saved as separate entry in the
>> Puddle.
>> Can this be done? I think, from what I've understood above, that it
>> can't
>> be done.
>
> Let me give you a very long answer to give you a picture...
>
> YES. The sign for WAKE-UP can be inserted for sure, but NOT using the
> Translate Feature...You cannot PASTE it from the dictionary...you will
> have to re-write the sign for WAKE-UP and insert it where you want it...
>
> Re-load the SignText document you already created and then write the
> sign for WAKE-UP from the beginning, inside the SignText Editor, and
> then INSERT that sign into the sentence between the sign for BOY and
> WOKE-UP, if that is where you want it...
>
> Signs are inserted between other signs all the time in SignText...It
> can be done and is done everyday, BUT it is NOT done using the
> TRANSLATE feature...You will have to re-write and manually insert the
> sign yourself in SignText, which is fast and just as easy as using the
> Translate Feature. (I rarely use the Translate feature at all anyway,
> and usually write all my documents directly anyway, without pasting
> any signs from any dictionary...that is my personal style of writing)...
>
> How would I insert that sign? I would write the sign from scratch,
> while I am working with the sentence in SignText...
>
> 1. I re-load the saved sentence into the SignText Editor in Firefox.
> 2. I write the sign I want to insert in the SignBox from scratch.
> 3. I then push the Insert Button, and the sign is inserted exactly
> where I want it.
> 4. I then Save the sentence and now that sign is in the saved document.
>
> So we do not have a way to use the translate feature, to capture one
> sign from the dictionary to insert into the middle of a sentence that
> has already been created...
>
> Just like I am typing this email letter by letter in English, symbol
> by symbol, without pasting words already written for me from an
> English dictionary, it is not that different in SignText...the less we
> paste from a dictionary the better, so it becomes a real writing
> system that you feel comfortable writing directly in...
>
> If you feel you have to paste all signs, then you could re-do the
> entire document, using the Translate Feature, if you feel you have to
> use the exact signs from the dictionary...
>
> Or you can open two web browsers at the same time...Use Firefox to
> create your documents, but open Netscape or Internet Explorer to view
> your dictionary at the same time while you are writing your SignText
> directly, so you can re-write a sign exactly the same as it appears in
> your dictionary, if you are worried that when you re-write it, you
> will not write it exactly the same...using two web browsers gives you
> two windows into the same dictionary, which is an amazing experience...
>
>
>>
>> I'm asking to double-check that the answer is no. I'm asking again
>> mainly
>> because I was thinking about the ASL Bible in Puddle; besides
>> creating the
>> documents they also saved all signs seperately? I thought that maybe
>> they
>> could insert signs, that might be repeated in other verses (for
>> example
>> the sign JESUS), when necessary?
>
> Nancy is excited about helping you by the way, so I will introduce you
> through email shortly...Nancy Romero is the person who has written the
> documents in the Gospel According to John in the ASL Bible Puddle...we
> call her documents the "Romero" translation...we are starting the
> editing process now and it is a lot of fun....
>
> A lot of the signs that are being used in Nancy's translations are
> already individual signs in the dictionary for sure. Nancy is doing
> one of the techniques that I mentioned above...probably re-doing any
> sentences by just starting from scratch using the Translate Feature...
>
>
>>
>> Sorry to bother you again with this question. It's not at all a
>> problem if
>> this feature is not yet available in SignPuddle.
>
>
> That is correct. The feature is not available in SignPuddle, so it is
> good idea to learn to write directly in SignText from time to time!
>
>
>
>> I'll just go on working
>> and adding more work, I just want to make sure I clearly understand
>> you,
>> that's all:))
>
> You have understood....
>
> Try writing a sentence without the Translate Feature...it is fun!!
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
>
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