a sandbank for SignWriting

Sun May 11 15:06:08 UTC 2008

SignWriting List
May 11, 2008

Hi Charles and Carl -
Thanks for this information...

The closest thing we have to the "sandbox" idea, is the PocketPuddle.  
It is a USB stick, that has SignPuddle software on it, and it does not  
require an internet connection. You can plug it into your USB port on  
your computer, and create your own private dictionaries and puddles  
offline...

PocketPuddles cost us money to manufacture, and the software is not  
always up-to-date with what we have online, so it has its drawbacks  
too...But there are several people who use PocketPuddles in the  
UK...they work best on Windows, although special installation is  
possible for Macs and Linux...

PocketPuddle
http://www.suttonshop.com/ecommerce/pages/products_sw_detail.jsp?id=49.0

The software on the PocketPuddle is SignPuddle 1.5.

Later this year, our SignPuddle Online will be upgrading to the new  
ISWA 2008. That will be called SignPuddle 2.0.

The PocketPuddle will not be updated to SignPuddle 2.0 software for  
some time, so it uses an older version of the software...

Val ;-)

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On May 11, 2008, at 7:55 AM, Charles Butler wrote:

> Sandbank, like Sandbox, would be a scratch pad to be able to  
> temporarily save an effort in sign writing, and not have it go to  
> SignBank or the SignPuddle.
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> This is a place to practice signwriting, but not have it go into a  
> dictionary but be like a writing pad, a place to construct a sign  
> with the software (as opposed to writing it on paper), save it in  
> sort of a little private box so you can have it to look at, but not  
> have it go into the online SignPuddle or SignBank until they have a  
> final copy. Right now, we have to have multiple versions in the  
> SignPuddle that then have to be edited out.
>
> Charles
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> Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
> SignWriting List
> May 11, 2008
>
> Carl Jones from the UK wrote:
> > First, congratulations on the SignWriting Image Server. It's
> > looking awesome. :-)
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> Thank you, Carl...I am sure that Steve will be glad to know you feel
> that way... I agree. Steve did an awesome job!
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> > I was wondering. In BSL, or at least in my dialect, the sign for
> > 'poor' is scratching your elbow. How would you write this? How do
> > you write that something has contact with the fingernails, not the
> > fingers?
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> We have a similar sign for POOR in American Sign Language...The
> fingers brush twice at the elbow. See two ways of writing that ASL
> sign here:
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> Although in the general Sutton Movement Writing system, we can
> differentiate between fingertips and fingerpads, we have never written
> the fingernail...I personally cut my fingernails down to the bone, so
> that I have no fingernails, and I often wear gloves when I sign for
> medical reasons, yet I can still sign...so I am sure that "fingertip"
> is enough information...and whether it is the nail or not, would not
> change the meaning of the sign...
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> In the UK, I know that you pronounce the word "schedule" differently
> than we do here in the US, but our two countries still spell (write)
> the word "schedule" with the same or similar spellings, even though we
> pronounce the same word differently, so we do not write with enormous
> detail for everyday use in English either...what matters is...is there
> another sign in BSL that has a different meaning, if the person had
> fingernails or not? I doubt that ;-)
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> So fingertips is enough information, rather than fingernail!
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> > The BSL sign for 'when' involves drumming your fingers against your
> > face-from pinkie to index. How on earth would you write that?
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> We definitely can write that! No problem...see attached diagram here:
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> > Finally, I was wondering if it's possible to make a 'sandbank' for
> > SignWriting, so you can practise signing and don't have to save it?
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> What is a sandbank? Do you mean a SignBank?
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> What do you mean by "don't have to save it"?...smile
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> We do have a program called "SignBank"...
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> SignBank
> http://www.SignBank.org
>
> Val ;-)
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Val ;-)

Valerie Sutton
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1. SignWriting
Read & Write Sign Languages
http://www.SignWriting.org

2. SignPuddle
Create SignWriting Documents Online
http://www.SignBank.org/signpuddle

3. SignBank
SignWriting Desktop Databases
http://www.SignBank.org

4. SignWriting List
Technical Support: Ask questions to the List
http://www.SignWriting.org/forums/swlist

5. SignWriting Literature Project
Writing Literature in Sign Languages
http://www.SignWriting.org/literature

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