Movement to the side

[Adam Frost]

And I don't doubt there is different thoughts going on. The importance  
of this is for the teachers so that they can understand the students  
better and this teach better. So it is a very interesting find that  
they understand one writing better than the other even though they are  
the same. That make the premise of a very interesting research. ;-)

Adam

On Nov 27, 2008, at 9:03 AM, "Gagnon et Thibeault" <atg at videotron.ca>  
wrote:

> Hi Adam and everyone,
>
>     Yes, (A) and (B) are correct or the same.  But Deaf  
> students'thinking is different from your thinking.  For example,  
> Deaf students develop a phonological analysis for different SW  
> symbols (hand on the floor or wall plane and single-stemmed arrow  
> (floor plane) and double-stemmed arrow (wall plane)).   Deaf  
> students found that they are more comfortable to read (B) than (A)  
> because of the same wall planes.  It is very important  for me to  
> understand how to acquire and learn a phonological analysis for Deaf  
> kids, not Deaf adults.  For example, a Deaf kid who is 7 years old  
> is able to read (B) more easy than (A) according to Deaf teacher.
>
>     I don't doubt that older kids are able to read either (A) and  
> (B) than younger kids.
>
>     Regards,
>
>     André
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Adam Frost
> To: SignWriting List
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Movement to the side
>
> The difference between using the single stem arrow and double stem  
> for side movements is just writers preference. Either is still  
> correct. So (A) and (B) are the same. (C) and (D) have the hands on  
> the floor plane which is different from (A) and (B). I am not  
> surprise that the deaf students are talking about floor and wall  
> planes. ;-)
>
> Adam
>
> On Nov 27, 2008, at 7:15 AM, "Gagnon et Thibeault"  
> <atg at videotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi Val, Adam, Stefan and everyone,
>>
>>     It is interesting that Deaf students talked about a front view  
>> and a top view.
>>
>>     See my attached diagram.  This is my writing (A) (DEFENDRE  
>> (French) = INTERDICT (English).  Deaf students are confused to read  
>> it because they stopped reading and figured out it.  Several Deaf  
>> students explained that the two hands are parallel with the front  
>> wall (front view), and the movement to the side with the single- 
>> stemmed arrows is viewed from the floor (top view).   They  
>> suggested that the two hands are      parallel with the front wall  
>> (front view), and the movement to the side with the double-stemmed  
>> arrows is viewed from the front wall (front view) (See the attached  
>> diagram (B) because Deaf students read it easily (the same front  
>> view).  They told Deaf teacher if they use the two      hands which  
>> are parallel with the floor, they use the movement to the side with  
>> the single-stemmed arrows whhich is viewed from the floor (top  
>> view) (See the attached diagram (C).  They don't want to use (D)  
>> since they aren't conformtable to read it.
>>
>>
>>     I can't believe that Deaf students understand a concept of the  
>> front view and the top view.
>>
>>     I adopt Deaf students'proposal.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>
>>     André
>>
>
>> <SW DEFENDRE.doc>
>
>>
>>
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