Movement to the side

[Gagnon et Thibeault]

Hi Adam and everyone,

    Yes, (A) and (B) are correct or the same.  But Deaf students'thinking is different from your thinking.  For example, Deaf students develop a phonological analysis for different SW symbols (hand on the floor or wall plane and single-stemmed arrow (floor plane) and double-stemmed arrow (wall plane)).  Deaf students found that they are more comfortable to read (B) than (A) because of the same wall planes.  It is very important for me to understand how to acquire and learn a phonological analysis for Deaf kids, not Deaf adults.  For example, a Deaf kid who is 7 years old is able to read (B) more easy than (A) according to Deaf teacher.

    I don't doubt that older kids are able to read either (A) and (B) than younger kids.

    Regards,

    André

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Adam Frost 
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  Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 11:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [sw-l] Movement to the side


  The difference between using the single stem arrow and double stem for side movements is just writers preference. Either is still correct. So (A) and (B) are the same. (C) and (D) have the hands on the floor plane which is different from (A) and (B). I am not surprise that the deaf students are talking about floor and wall planes. ;-)


  Adam

  On Nov 27, 2008, at 7:15 AM, "Gagnon et Thibeault" <atg at videotron.ca> wrote:


    Hi Val, Adam, Stefan and everyone,

        It is interesting that Deaf students talked about a front view and a top view.

        See my attached diagram.  This is my writing (A) (DEFENDRE (French) = INTERDICT (English).  Deaf students are confused to read it because they stopped reading and figured out it.  Several Deaf students explained that the two hands are parallel with the front wall (front view), and the movement to the side with the single-stemmed arrows is viewed from the floor (top view).   They suggested that the two hands are parallel with the front wall (front view), and the movement to the side with the double-stemmed arrows is viewed from the front wall (front view) (See the attached diagram (B) because Deaf students read it easily (the same front view).  They told Deaf teacher if they use the two hands which are parallel with the floor, they use the movement to the side with the single-stemmed arrows whhich is viewed from the floor (top view) (See the attached diagram (C).  They don't want to use (D) since they aren't conformtable to read it.


        I can't believe that Deaf students understand a concept of the front view and the top view.

        I adopt Deaf students'proposal.

        Regards,

        André

    <SW DEFENDRE.doc>



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