Group 1 handshape symbol differentiation

[Valerie Sutton]

And the same is true for the plane parallel to the Floor. We can  
pretend we are on the ceiling, looking down at hands that are parallel  
to the Floor Plane. Those hands have the break across them...and they  
can be high or low or far or near to the body, and if we pretend we  
are a bird sitting high up, looking down, we see the hand parallel to  
the floor...no matter how high or low the hand itself is...that is why  
Ingvild called it the "bird's eye view"...so all these levels of  
hands, parallel to the Floor Plane have a break in the handshape.

In the attached diagram all these hands are in the exact same palm  
facing. They are simply at different heights. They are all parallel to  
the Floor. And we are viewing them as if we were a bird sitting on the  
ceiling....so we know it is the Floor Plane, when there is a break in  
the finger...at any height:

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Natasha - I would suggest that you attach a sign you have written that  
confuses you, and ask us how we would write it. Over time, this will  
sink in and become easy...it is just a matter of writing with some  
feedback...so show us some signs and we can start writing them  
together...

If you need materials for your classroom just tell me -

Val ;-)

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On Sep 29, 2008, at 7:27 AM, Valerie Sutton wrote:

> SignWriting List
> September 29, 2008
>
> Thank you, Cherie, for your excellent explanation...which was  
> perfect....
>
> Natasha - I believe you understand that the handshapes can rotate in  
> 8 possible rotations now. But there is one misunderstanding I have  
> noticed in your questions. You assume that we are talking about  
> height. These rotations have nothing to do with how high or low your  
> hand is...or how near or far they are, because they represent  
> "planes"...
>
> These palm facings represent "planes in space"...the classic example  
> of this is the sign for MY or MINE.
>
> We write the sign for MY or MINE with a white palm touching the  
> chest. Obviously, if you look down at your hand touching your chest,  
> you see the overhead view of the side view of the hand, but we do  
> not write it that way...so it is not just based on what is in your  
> own view, but it is based instead on planes...essentially there is a  
> "white palm plane" that is written with a white palm, whether the  
> hand is far or close to the body...
>
> If the palm is facing the chest, parallel to the Front Wall Plane,  
> whether it is close to your body or far from your body...it is all  
> on the same "white palm plane".... Try this...put your hand in the  
> position of the sign for MY, but far from your body, and then move  
> it in the exact position towards your chest....and then it touches  
> your chest...that is all the same plane or palm facing...
>
> Another way to say it is that the sign for MY or MINE "feels like  
> the white palm" because the white palm is doing the contact...it is  
> the important meaning to the sign...
>
> So the palm facings are on planes...see attached...take a look at  
> the white palm in all these positions...all of these could  
> happen...the white palm means that the hand is parallel to the Front  
> Wall, with the palm away from the Front Wall, no matter what the  
> height or depth...see attached...This shows the white palm with the  
> Flat Palm but it is the same for any white palm symbol, whether it  
> is group 1 or group 5:

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