fingers bending

[Honza]

Hi Adam,

yes this I wanted to know.
It is clear then.

thanks Val as well.

good night.
Honza

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Adam Frost<icemandeaf at gmail.com> wrote:
> The main difference with picture 1 verses picture 2 and 3 is that the first
> knuckle does not bend. It is straight with the hand, like it is with the ASL
> letter X. The other two cup, meaning that all of the knuckles of the finger
> bend. How much they all bend is the difference between picture 2 and picture
> 3. I hope that helps.
>
> Adam
>
> On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Honza wrote:
>
>> Hi Val,
>>
>> now I am not sure again.
>> Which handshape is more bended?
>> your picture 1 or picture 3?
>> it seems to me from side view, that picture 2 is more bended than picture
>> 1
>>
>> thanks
>> Honza.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Valerie Sutton<sutton at signwriting.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The side view helps a lot! I think they look very clear from the side
>>> view...don't you, Honza?
>>>
>>> Val ;-)
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:17 AM, Adam Frost wrote:
>>>
>>>> Maybe I'm a little confused what you are asking. Are you asking how the
>>>> bends of fingers are different in those three handshapes? I are that it
>>>> can
>>>> be hard to tell the difference because they are SO close. I have to work
>>>> on
>>>> making sure I knew the difference so that I could make it as clear as I
>>>> could in the photos. Personally, I think that the side view is when the
>>>> difference is clearly visible. The other views aren't as clear. I have
>>>> attached the photos with the side view. Does that help make it clear, or
>>>> am
>>>> I misunderstanding the question?
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Honza wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> yes. I asked this because according the symbols it seems that no.1 is
>>>>> relaxed spread cup and 2 is spread fingers bent
>>>>> from the middle joint only.
>>>>> That's why I asked if photos of handshapes are exact.
>>>>> .. just pretending confusing.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Honza
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Valerie Sutton<sutton at signwriting.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SignWriting List
>>>>>> August 27, 2009
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Honza!
>>>>>> Thanks for this message -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes...Adam is doing an outstanding job with the beautiful photos of
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> hand, and then enlarging the symbols and then creating the animated
>>>>>> GIFs...then I post the animation on the web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can view them starting on this web page:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ISWA Symbol Lessons
>>>>>> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/iswa/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the moment, Adam has completed Groups 1- 5, and is partially
>>>>>> finished
>>>>>> with Group 6. I will post five more in Group 6 today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But there is still Groups 7-10 to finish, and then all the handshapes
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ISWA will be documented. Thank you, Adam, for this important work!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The three bent-finger photos that you attached, Honza, do look similar
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> each other and it is hard to see the difference, but the symbols are
>>>>>> trying
>>>>>> to show the difference between a five hand that has 1) spread fingers
>>>>>> bent
>>>>>> from the middle joint only  2) a relaxed spread cup  3) a bent spread
>>>>>> cup...maybe seeing them from the side would help you...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was that your question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Val ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 27, 2009, at 6:36 AM, Honza wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Val,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it is great it seems SignWriting Symbol Lessons is done.
>>>>>>> but now I am little bit confused about 5 handshape's sybols.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> especially this (see attachment).
>>>>>>> I just want to be sure that symbols lower are more bent as photos
>>>>>>> shows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>> Honza
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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