macarena - dance audience's viewpoint

Wed Jan 7 17:10:05 UTC 2009

Hello Valerie, Tini and SW-list 

thank you very much for this informative answer. Well – the  idea behind all
this is to motivate my students to achieve a higher level in SW – reading
and writing. It should be fun and – wow it is so much fun! 

So  - thanks for your understanding that we write this mixture style in
order to preserve what we try to remember – regarding this easy to learn
disco dance. And you know that I use a lot movement Writing for other
occasions.

I would like to share this photo impression from our lesson today. We have
had so much fun and since reading SW is so easy it has been a tremendous
support to study this movement sequence as a group dance. You see – the foto
shows the moment when my colleague Janna tries to inform our SW-artist
Eduard to use the other hand – smile. 

On the attached document the reader might get confused because of the
different presentations: (signwriting/movement-writing receptive  versus
photo “audience’s viewpoint”.

Probably this would be an excellent opportunity to introduce the "audience's
viewpoint",  

Thank you so much for this lesson! 

Stefan ;-) 

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Von: Valerie Sutton [mailto:signwriting at mac.com] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Januar 2009 02:23
An: SignWriting List
Cc: Tini Pel; Stefan Woehrmann; Stefan Woehrmann
Betreff: Re: [sw-l] macarena - dance

SignWriting List

January 6, 2009

Hello Stefan and Tini and Everyone!

Wow. Thanks for the attached document and for the video on YouTube...

And congratulations on all your hard work...this is a beautiful document ;-)

Go right ahead and use it with your students - I bet they will have a lot of
fun with it!

Maybe the first column isn't necessary? It is a little hard to read...but
once the arm movements really start and the rest of the document I could
definitely read!

At the moment we do not have a DanceWriting List, nor do I want to start one
....Technically your document is a blend of the more modern way we write
SignWriting and some of the old DanceWriting...but it really doesn't look
like real DanceWriting...but that is ok...it doesn't have to!

It is more "movement Writing" ;-))

You see, DanceWriting is a related system, but it is handled differently
than this document...

Regarding the old DanceWriting...it is not written receptively or
expressively...it is written from the "audience's viewpoint", so if the
dancer faces you, you write the body facing you...that is like receptive,
but the difference is that when the dancer turns the body and is facing the
side wall, you the writer still stay in the audience, so you then write the
body facing the side wall, just as you see it in real life...a dotted line
is used to show the side wall viewpoint...and if the dancer turns to have
the back to the audience, then you write what you see if you were sitting in
the audience...so then you would write the back of the dancer at that
time...

I used to write the dances of the Royal Danish Ballet while sitting out in
the audience....that is how that "stage view" started...

So if I were writing the video on YouTube, I would instinctively write it as
if I were sitting in the audience which is very different than writing it
from the dancer's perspective, which is what I believe you are writing...and
that is fine...go right ahead!

We never used overhead views in DanceWriting...those came into SignWriting
years later, and of course I guess the overhead view could be used in
DanceWriting now, taking it from SignWriting, but because DanceWriting was
based on writing while sitting in the audience, an overhead view was never
considered...

DanceWriting is oftentimes written under music scores with a five lined
staff that is like what written music is written on...five lines...

But SignWriting does not use a five lined staff to show levels or height of
a jump or a bend etc...it is a different world...

So I was in the professional ballet world and we had our own profession...

Your document is fine for your students and a lot of fun! Please go ahead
and use it...

I had a little problem reading the first column...is that writing the
beginning of the video on YouTube? I think you are trying to shake your
shoulders while going up and down with bent legs, at least that is what I
saw in the video...but I could not have read the first column as that,
because there are no bending knees and straightening legs...

For me, I need the lower body to really write this, but your writing is fun
because you are really writing only the upper body except for the
jumping...by the way, a jumping arrow is a little different in DanceWriting
but I think your three lines that look like the floor are wonderful! Very
descriptive!

I believe you are starting teaching again tomorrow? ENJOY!!

Regarding DanceWriting, we have a whole library of books you can download
for free on the internet if you are interested...They are not really
instruction books, but more Sheet Dance literature...but fun to download....

DanceWriting Library

http://www.DanceWriting.org/library

Notice the Jumping Arrow on this web page:

http://www.dancewriting.org/lessons/dwless001.html

The jumping arrow is placed under the feet of the jumping figure ;-)

Anyway, I must go to bed now...Thanks for sharing with us and tell us how it
goes with your students writing the Macarena!!

Val ;-)

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On Jan 6, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:

Hi Valerie, Tini, dancewriters, movementwriters und SW-list friends –

I came across a youtube video. Here a young lady explains the dance
–movements of a disco dance: Macarena

 <http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=vlzwuFkn88U&feature=related>
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=vlzwuFkn88U&feature=related

I would like to use it in my class as a project for a wonderful
demonstration of the benefits of quick handwriting – and afterwards
carefully transcription with a computer program.

I would ask you for your feeling, ideas, impressions.

Can you understand?

Well in fact the timing of the beat is still missing and if you look at the
video you see that they move from the right foot to the left foot while
doing these other things with their hands and arms. So many things to keep
in mind. ( And in the beginning she explains to start with the right hand –
but – hm 
. ???

Have fun – and thanks for any comments

Stefan ;-)

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