AW: [sw-l] New Czech sign...I wrote these in the Czech SignPuddle

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
January 27, 2009

Hi Stefan!

That is fine! That mouth position can certainly be interpreted as  
tense lips...and if that is a"P" in Woehrmann's SpeechWriting that is  
fine...I don't know what the Czech word is for that sign..I don't even  
know what the sign means....so I agree if Honza agrees...

The Tense lips can also be used slightly differently...in ASL we use  
the Tense lips for two lips pressing each other, like in the sign for  
possessives such as YOURS or HIS...and that is not quite a P position  
of the lips...so I guess there are some tiny variations for use for  
that symbol...and that is perfectly fine ;-)

Even in our two spoken languages...German and English...we use the  
Roman alphabet differently...so this is to be expected...

I will remember that P is the Tense Lips symbol in SpeechWriting...

Thank you for SpeechWriting! It is an important development and  
successful too...

Val ;-)




On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:

> Hi Val,
>
> thanks for your message. I always love to study your spellings ...
>
> In this case I would like to add one comment.
>
> I see, that you decided to add a facial expression - in Germany we  
> say mouth-gesture to all kinds of mouth, lip, tongue movements that  
> do not go along with soundless speaking ...
>
> The signer is moving the lips as if speaking - so speechwriting  
> starting with the "P"-mouth   would be my suggestion.
>
>
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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu 
> ] Im Auftrag vonValerie Sutton
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 18:51
> An: SignWriting List
> Cc: Adam Frost
> Betreff: [sw-l] New Czech sign...I wrote these in the Czech SignPuddle
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> SignWriting List
> January 27, 2009
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> Here are my attempts at writing this very difficult but interesting
> sign from the Czech Republic! See attached....
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> Hope this helps....these examples are in your Czech SignPuddle
> dictionary, Honza, for you to play with...
>
> As you can see, this is a difficult sign to write, and I tried many
> avenues...I am not sure what is best myself, but sometimes, after a
> long time, people start writing themselves, and one day, someone comes
> up with a great way to write the same sign that we were struggling
> with for years! So see this as a "first attempt" and then over time
> you will get feedback from others until you find a SignSpelling that
> works for your readers...
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> I have to go to an appointment now, so I will be back later today -
> Val ;-)
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