AW: [sw-l] New Czech sign...I wrote these in the Czech SignPuddle

[Honza]

Hi Val and Stefan,

actually it is not Czech, but Slovak sign, but that is not important ;),
anyway it means PEAR.
I tried to use similar spelling inspired by Val.

I won't use any face expression, at least expression that should mean "B" -
so the one Stefan supposed.

thanks for help
Honza

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>wrote:

> SignWriting List
> January 27, 2009
>
> Hi Stefan!
>
> That is fine! That mouth position can certainly be interpreted as tense
> lips...and if that is a"P" in Woehrmann's SpeechWriting that is fine...I
> don't know what the Czech word is for that sign..I don't even know what the
> sign means....so I agree if Honza agrees...
>
> The Tense lips can also be used slightly differently...in ASL we use the
> Tense lips for two lips pressing each other, like in the sign for
> possessives such as YOURS or HIS...and that is not quite a P position of the
> lips...so I guess there are some tiny variations for use for that
> symbol...and that is perfectly fine ;-)
>
> Even in our two spoken languages...German and English...we use the Roman
> alphabet differently...so this is to be expected...
>
> I will remember that P is the Tense Lips symbol in SpeechWriting...
>
> Thank you for SpeechWriting! It is an important development and successful
> too...
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
>
>  Hi Val,
>>
>> thanks for your message. I always love to study your spellings ...
>>
>> In this case I would like to add one comment.
>>
>> I see, that you decided to add a facial expression - in Germany we say
>> mouth-gesture to all kinds of mouth, lip, tongue movements that do not go
>> along with soundless speaking ...
>>
>> The signer is moving the lips as if speaking - so speechwriting starting
>> with the "P"-mouth   would be my suggestion.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>>
>> Stefan ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:
>> sw-l-bounces at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] Im Auftrag vonValerie Sutton
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Januar 2009 18:51
>> An: SignWriting List
>> Cc: Adam Frost
>> Betreff: [sw-l] New Czech sign...I wrote these in the Czech SignPuddle
>>
>> SignWriting List
>> January 27, 2009
>>
>> Here are my attempts at writing this very difficult but interesting
>> sign from the Czech Republic! See attached....
>>
>> Hope this helps....these examples are in your Czech SignPuddle
>> dictionary, Honza, for you to play with...
>>
>> As you can see, this is a difficult sign to write, and I tried many
>> avenues...I am not sure what is best myself, but sometimes, after a
>> long time, people start writing themselves, and one day, someone comes
>> up with a great way to write the same sign that we were struggling
>> with for years! So see this as a "first attempt" and then over time
>> you will get feedback from others until you find a SignSpelling that
>> works for your readers...
>>
>> I have to go to an appointment now, so I will be back later today -
>> Val ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________
>>
>> SW-L SignWriting List
>>
>> Post Message
>> SW-L at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>>
>> List Archives and Help
>> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/
>>
>> Change Email Settings
>> http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________________________________________
>
> SW-L SignWriting List
>
> Post Message
> SW-L at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>
> List Archives and Help
> http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/
>
> Change Email Settings
> http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/sw-l/attachments/20090127/b5b4f2b1/attachment.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: broskyna.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 3424 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/sw-l/attachments/20090127/b5b4f2b1/attachment.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------



____________________________________________

SW-L SignWriting List

Post Message
SW-L at majordomo.valenciacc.edu

List Archives and Help
http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/

Change Email Settings
http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l