New Czech sign...I wrote these in the Czech SignPuddle

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
January 28, 2009

Hello Adam, and everyone!
In many ways, I agree with you. And your writing is fascinating...The  
fingers being "sat upon" is fine in that handshape, if the information  
that the hand went from the tips of the finger to the wrist doesn't  
matter...If we assume that people already know that sign, and they can  
read it without the information of the "arc movement back towards the  
wrist", then your writing is fine!

They are describing the "bulb shape of a pear". So your writing does  
not give them feeling of describing the curve of the pear-shape. But  
that may not matter.

If you look at the video and not just my still-photos you can see that  
they are trying to make a shape of something...but in everyday writing  
maybe writing that arc is not necessary...because we do not know Czech  
Sign Language it is hard to say....

I totally agree that the tiny little "Surface Symbols" should not be  
used if avoided and I like using the Front View of the Heel of the  
Hand symbol, but the contact from the tips of the fingers to the wrist  
is what is lacking in many of our attempted writings...including some  
of my own...as you can see below...scroll down....

I think the diagonal writing in my example below is a possibility  
too...sometimes writing something straight front is harder...

Val ;-)


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On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:08 AM, Adam Frost wrote:

> I have been following this with some interest. I haven't said  
> anything since I had no idea how better to write it then what has  
> been said. That was until now. :-) First thought was, why change  
> from the top view of the left hand to the wrist view? (If that is  
> what it is called, HA!) What I mean is that they mean the same, but  
> I think in this case the wrist view actually works better in  
> readability. Secondly, if you have the beginning and ending  
> positions, why do you need the arrows? Isn't the movement already  
> apparent? The reason I thought of this was because of the writing of  
> the ASL  sign "meaning" although I think I have a different idea for  
> writing that, but I will save that for another time. ;-)
>
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> So having thought about that, I think that I would write it like this.
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> I don't know about having the last position of the right hand  
> covering some of the left hand, but I think it is clear as to where  
> the hand is rather than having to resort to "the other symbols" for  
> more detail. (If you can't guess, I avoid writing with them at all  
> costs. Ha!) What do you think?
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> Adam


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