New Czech sign...I wrote these in the Czech SignPuddle

[Honza]

Hi Adam,

wathing your writing again, I would agree with this now.
I think it is clear where are the contacts.

Honza

wat

On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:

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> January 28, 2009
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> Hello Adam, and everyone!
> In many ways, I agree with you. And your writing is fascinating...The
> fingers being "sat upon" is fine in that handshape, if the information that
> the hand went from the tips of the finger to the wrist doesn't matter...If
> we assume that people already know that sign, and they can read it without
> the information of the "arc movement back towards the wrist", then your
> writing is fine!
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> They are describing the "bulb shape of a pear". So your writing does not
> give them feeling of describing the curve of the pear-shape. But that may
> not matter.
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> If you look at the video and not just my still-photos you can see that they
> are trying to make a shape of something...but in everyday writing maybe
> writing that arc is not necessary...because we do not know Czech Sign
> Language it is hard to say....
>
> I totally agree that the tiny little "Surface Symbols" should not be used
> if avoided and I like using the Front View of the Heel of the Hand symbol,
> but the contact from the tips of the fingers to the wrist is what is lacking
> in many of our attempted writings...including some of my own...as you can
> see below...scroll down....
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> I think the diagonal writing in my example below is a possibility
> too...sometimes writing something straight front is harder...
>
> Val ;-)
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> On Jan 28, 2009, at 12:08 AM, Adam Frost wrote:
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>  I have been following this with some interest. I haven't said anything
>> since I had no idea how better to write it then what has been said. That was
>> until now. :-) First thought was, why change from the top view of the left
>> hand to the wrist view? (If that is what it is called, HA!) What I mean is
>> that they mean the same, but I think in this case the wrist view actually
>> works better in readability. Secondly, if you have the beginning and ending
>> positions, why do you need the arrows? Isn't the movement already apparent?
>> The reason I thought of this was because of the writing of the ASL  sign
>> "meaning" although I think I have a different idea for writing that, but I
>> will save that for another time. ;-)
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>> So having thought about that, I think that I would write it like this.
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>> I don't know about having the last position of the right hand covering
>> some of the left hand, but I think it is clear as to where the hand is
>> rather than having to resort to "the other symbols" for more detail. (If you
>> can't guess, I avoid writing with them at all costs. Ha!) What do you think?
>>
>> Adam
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