Body, Torso, Shoulders, Tilting, Bending

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
July 9, 2008

I am very happy we are discussing this. It is good to document all this.

I can try to take a video of myself doing it, but I am not sure you  
will be able to see it well

I think the easiest way to see these, Adam, is the words "small and  
large".

When the symbols are near the shoulders, we are doing very small  
rocking...we are only "pushing the shoulders over"..it  is the ribcage  
moving over a little...

When we put the symbols on the head, we are saying that the whole body  
goes over...not just the shoulders

Mime artists do this differentiation all the time. They isolate a part  
of the body, and only move that one part, and not letting any other  
part move.

Are you saying that you want bending along with the rocking? If so,  
then that can be written...see attached diagram below....

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So the first ones at the top of this diagram are simply saying that  
the shoulders are pushed over to one side or the other a little, but  
they are not at a slant...the shoulders are still straight forward

The next ones down, the middle ones, still have the head looking  
straight front, but the shoulders are slanting or tilting.. a slight  
bend right or left...they also have their shoulder up, and the  
shoulders are rocking a little to the side

The third ones are really twisting to the corner...so they are totally  
different...

Someday we need to make a video clip of these differences...

Val ;-)

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On Jul 9, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Adam Frost wrote:

> Hmm... Hmmmmm... So there is no weight shift with the shoulder  
> rocking? And the shoulders stay level in both, but there is no  
> bending?
>
> I was thinking about the difference being that the pivot is at the  
> waist and mid-spine for the rocking from the hips and the shoulder  
> respectively, but it would seem that the shoulders and head would  
> have to tilt and pivoting from mid-spine would cause bending and  
> stretching.
>
> Hmm... I'm just not seeing it, and you are right that if I was in  
> your office with you showing me that I would have it in no time.  
> *Sigh*
>
> Adam
>
> On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:45 PM, SignWriting wrote:
>
>> My drawing skills are not very good...
>>
>> Essentially the symbols near the Shoulder Line is Shoulder Rocking  
>> and the other is Hip Rocking. While the rocking motion occurs, the  
>> spine and head and body all remain straight...there is no bending  
>> happening...if you want to combine bending with it you can, but all  
>> by themselves, these symbols do not write any bending or  
>> twisting...The symbols over the head are really writing weight  
>> change from the hip...
>>
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