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[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
March 7, 2009

Yes, when writing the sign in SignText, be sure to write the two  
positions as "one sign" entry in the sentence, because the SignText  
Editor will automatically put a space between different signs...so   
there should be an obvious difference between a two-positioned sign  
with not much space between the two positions, and two separate  
signs...within the document...

Val ;-)

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On Mar 7, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Ingvild Roald wrote:

> Thanks. That solves it then: I write them closer, so they make up  
> the one sign
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> Ingvild
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> Subject: Re: [sw-l] movement
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>> SignWriting List
>> March 7, 2009
>>
>> Hello Ingvild and Adam!
>>
>> I am sorry we misunderstood the sign. It sounds like you know how to
>> write it, Ingvild, and really don't need us...We are guessing because
>> we have not seen the signs and sentence...
>>
>> If you feel it is one sign, then you can write it with or without an
>> arrow between...if you want to write the two positions without a
>> connecting arrow, then just write the two positions a little closer  
>> to
>> each other, than two separate signs would be, so it is clear that it
>> is one sign rather than two...
>>
>> And Adam, if the sign had been close to the ear as I had  
>> misunderstood
>> it to be, then your Wrist Movement Symbol would have been
>> perfect...but that was my fault for misunderstanding that the sign  
>> for
>> YOU was down lower...
>>
>> smile...
>>
>> Val ;-)
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>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Ingvild Roald wrote:
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>>> No, a wrist flex is not the right one - the hand stays in line with
>>> the lower part of the arm.
>>>
>>> So the quarter circle is from the elbow, forward/down.
>>>
>>> The only reason I want to put in an arrow, is because I feel this is
>>> just one sign, but maybe it really two, and then the arrow should
>>> not be there ...
>>>
>>> Norwegian Deaf would have the mouth movements, pronouncing just the
>>> one word "DØV" (DEAF). not "DU" (YOU") or "are" ..
>>>
>>> Ingvild
>>>
>>> From: Adam
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:11 PM
>>> To: SignWriting LIst
>>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] movement
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>>> I think from what you described that if you wanted to add a movement
>>> arrow, the wrist flex would be the one that you want. Do you agree,
>>> Ingvild? Adam On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>>> SignWriting List March 6, 2009 On Mar 6, 2009, at 6:30 AM, iroald at hotmail.com
>>> wrote: How would you write the movement of the hand in this sign?
>>> The elbow may stay in touch with the side of the body at all times,
>>> the hand just arches down from the ear to forward. The sign is the
>>> neutral question "Are you deaf?". I know I could choose one of the
>>> slanting-down-forward arrows, but it does not feel right - too
>>> elaborate in a way. It is also possible to let the sign stay as it
>>> is, it should be perfectly legible, but then again it would not seem
>>> to be just one sign, would it? Ingvild Hello Ingvild and everyone -
>>> Thanks for this question. I agree that a movement arrow is not
>>> needed. Is this really one sign? It sounds like it is more like a
>>> compound sign...a combination of DEAF and YOU... Anyway, I think the
>>> ear symbol is needed in the second position too, to show that the
>>> second hand position, which is pointing forward, is still near the
>>> ear...Even if the second hand is not near the ear, I think the ear
>>> should be on the second head because it feels like there is still a
>>> relationship with it and it looks funny when it disappears...at
>>> least for me...If you see this as one sign, then the two positions
>>> might be a little closer to each other too...See attached diagram.
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