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Sat Mar 7 21:35:29 UTC 2009

Thanks. Good advice.

Ingvild

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From: "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:33 PM
To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
Subject: Re: [sw-l] movement

> SignWriting List
> March 7, 2009
>
> Yes, when writing the sign in SignText, be sure to write the two 
> positions as "one sign" entry in the sentence, because the SignText 
> Editor will automatically put a space between different signs...so   there 
> should be an obvious difference between a two-positioned sign  with not 
> much space between the two positions, and two separate  signs...within the 
> document...
>
> Val ;-)
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> On Mar 7, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Ingvild Roald wrote:
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>> Thanks. That solves it then: I write them closer, so they make up  the 
>> one sign
>>
>> Ingvild
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>> From: "SignWriting" <signwriting at mac.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:07 PM
>> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] movement
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>>> SignWriting List
>>> March 7, 2009
>>>
>>> Hello Ingvild and Adam!
>>>
>>> I am sorry we misunderstood the sign. It sounds like you know how to
>>> write it, Ingvild, and really don't need us...We are guessing because
>>> we have not seen the signs and sentence...
>>>
>>> If you feel it is one sign, then you can write it with or without an
>>> arrow between...if you want to write the two positions without a
>>> connecting arrow, then just write the two positions a little closer  to
>>> each other, than two separate signs would be, so it is clear that it
>>> is one sign rather than two...
>>>
>>> And Adam, if the sign had been close to the ear as I had  misunderstood
>>> it to be, then your Wrist Movement Symbol would have been
>>> perfect...but that was my fault for misunderstanding that the sign  for
>>> YOU was down lower...
>>>
>>> smile...
>>>
>>> Val ;-)
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>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Ingvild Roald wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, a wrist flex is not the right one - the hand stays in line with
>>>> the lower part of the arm.
>>>>
>>>> So the quarter circle is from the elbow, forward/down.
>>>>
>>>> The only reason I want to put in an arrow, is because I feel this is
>>>> just one sign, but maybe it really two, and then the arrow should
>>>> not be there ...
>>>>
>>>> Norwegian Deaf would have the mouth movements, pronouncing just the
>>>> one word "DØV" (DEAF). not "DU" (YOU") or "are" ..
>>>>
>>>> Ingvild
>>>>
>>>> From: Adam
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:11 PM
>>>> To: SignWriting LIst
>>>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] movement
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>>>> I think from what you described that if you wanted to add a movement
>>>> arrow, the wrist flex would be the one that you want. Do you agree,
>>>> Ingvild? Adam On Mar 6, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>>>> SignWriting List March 6, 2009 On Mar 6, 2009, at 6:30 AM, 
>>>> iroald at hotmail.com
>>>> wrote: How would you write the movement of the hand in this sign?
>>>> The elbow may stay in touch with the side of the body at all times,
>>>> the hand just arches down from the ear to forward. The sign is the
>>>> neutral question "Are you deaf?". I know I could choose one of the
>>>> slanting-down-forward arrows, but it does not feel right - too
>>>> elaborate in a way. It is also possible to let the sign stay as it
>>>> is, it should be perfectly legible, but then again it would not seem
>>>> to be just one sign, would it? Ingvild Hello Ingvild and everyone -
>>>> Thanks for this question. I agree that a movement arrow is not
>>>> needed. Is this really one sign? It sounds like it is more like a
>>>> compound sign...a combination of DEAF and YOU... Anyway, I think the
>>>> ear symbol is needed in the second position too, to show that the
>>>> second hand position, which is pointing forward, is still near the
>>>> ear...Even if the second hand is not near the ear, I think the ear
>>>> should be on the second head because it feels like there is still a
>>>> relationship with it and it looks funny when it disappears...at
>>>> least for me...If you see this as one sign, then the two positions
>>>> might be a little closer to each other too...See attached diagram.
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