AW: [sw-l] movement in LIQUID

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Mon Mar 9 03:29:59 UTC 2009

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March 8, 2009

On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:39 AM, Stefan Wöhrmann wrote:
> What I am interested in is to proof that MovementWriting allows us to
> describe even this kind of complex movement - and if so I would not  
> mind to
> look at a sequence of 4 or 8 signs that will indicate the different  
> "stills"
> that can be seen during the whole movement.

Hello Stefan!
I would feel very honored, if you would apply your Movement Writing  
skills, or your SignWriting skills, to writing this movement for us,  
from your perspective. How would you write this movement, based on the  
frames you see in these photos? (see attached below)

I know you are very busy teaching, but when you have time it would be  
wonderful to see your writing, not because we need to prove anything  
to anyone, but because it will be good for the writing system to get  
your input...I think all of the attempts so far, have highlighted  
different aspects of the movement, but no one decision or final  
writing has been established so far, and I think that is good, to keep  
discussing it from different perspectives. One thing that I have  
learned over 35 years is that people look at the same movement and see  
different things, and choose to write different things, so "writing  
what you see" and also "writing what you feel intuitively" is as  
complex as the human brain is...

The reason that SignWriting and Movement Writing have been used these  
35 years is because we have remained flexible and open to these kinds  
of discussions and new ideas...that is how SignWriting slowly went  
from Receptive to Expressive, and from horizontal to vertical, and so  
many other developments that happened one by one, step by step,  
through contact with writers and an openness to suggestions...

And the goals of SignWriting and Movement Writing are somewhat  
different...In SignWriting, it is my hope anyway, that we can find a  
way to write sign languages on a daily basis that is detailed enough  
to make it possible to read every sign, but simple enough to make  
reading fun and easy...that is a hard balance to find, where Movement  
Writing, which is mostly for research, can be very very detailed...but  
that is also why it is not used on a daily basis...

So if you wish to write it from a Movement Writing perspective, or a  
SignWriting perspective...both are very welcome and will give us much  
to discuss and think about!

Many thanks for your nice message -

See attached...

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