Writing Heads Facing the Front Corner...something new ; -)

Thu Mar 19 14:10:26 UTC 2009

That is a good way of teaching it, I guess in typing it you have to dig for more signs.  In  writing  it, it  becomes more  compact.

I guess it's the keyboardist in  me (my hands cramp), that I want fewer keystrokes or clicks to get to a particular cluster.

Charles

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From: Bill Reese <wreese01 at tampabay.rr.com>
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Subject: Re: [sw-l] Writing Heads Facing the Front Corner...something new ; -)

There's two ways of looking at that, Charles.  If you were a scribe
using ink on paper, you could easily make one side of the face thicker
by pressing more firmly on the ink pen as you round out the face.  The
sign appears simpler, as there are less symbols to the sign.  I believe
that's what's happening here with these face symbols, too - that
although there are more symbols in the symbol set, the use of them
makes for a simpler sign.

Bill

Charles Butler wrote: 
I guess what I am talking  about is the multiplicity of
symbols.  If you add more darkened heads, rather than adding one
symbol, a face-direction darkening arc, you add another 8 heads.  

Looking at the IMWA,  I'm  getting to the point of throwing up my
hands.  Rather than keeping the symbol set simple, each new feature
becomes additive to something old, so that, for example, the wrist line
is being added to each movement arc to hold it in place rather  than
having the wrist line separate and all the darkening arcs for the head
separate.  

If the head is one thing, seen  from the back, or from the front, or
the side, you then have an arc, one symbol, not a darkened head on one
side.

Charles

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From: Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
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Sent: Wednesday, March
18, 2009 4:26:01 PM
Subject: Re: [sw-l]
Writing Heads Facing the Front Corner...something new ; -)

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March 18, 2009

Thanks for the message below, Charles -

The symbols that I was showing are from the Front View...or perhaps a
better way to explain it is that the reader is standing behind the
signer and viewing the head from that perspective...

If you want to view the head from the overhead top view, you certainly
can, or even the side view...all those opportunities are there for you
with the ISWA 2008 symbolset...You can easily write what you posted in
your message, Charles, with the ISWA symbolset...

These symbols for the head facing the front corner are already in the
ISWA 2008 symbolset too. No one has to use them however...that is a
choice. I like them a lot and use them daily now, when writing
storytelling from video...so they are working for me and i know others
who are writing with them too...

If you are standing behind the signer and the signer turns to the front
corner, the side of the head that is closer to the reader can be
darkened...here is another example:

Val ;-)

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On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Charles Butler wrote:

> Would not having a "facial turn" arc serve better rather than
having a whole new stack of heads.  That  way it could be moved around
to any side of the face to show that the whole head and body turns
without  adding more heads to the system.
> 
> I'm thinking of something like this.
> 
> 
>

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