SW-L Digest, Vol 28, Issue 64

Tue Nov 24 16:39:44 UTC 2009

Val mentioned that it would be nice to move on to inspiring stories about
SSW. I'd second that! I started the "common criticisms" thread because I'm
interested in the ways that dominant language ideologies in the US (and in
other places) affect the reception of SSW. But more than that I'm interested
in the ways that SSW overcomes those challenges, and helps create new ways
of thinking about language and writing. So I'd love to hear more about that
as well!
Best,
Erika

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:20:30 -0800
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] common criticisms of signwriting?
> SignWriting List
> November 24, 2009
>
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 4:41 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote:
>
>> Our post Post-Modern society could well see a total decline in textuality;
>> we've already seen the reduction of much intelligent discourse in politics,
>> etc as Postman suggested.Pessemistic I know but I fear this result is the
>> conclusion. How this will affect D/deaf people with their general literacy
>> skills and their specific need of sign language notations remains to be
>> seen. I am not hopeful.
>>
>
>
> Hi Trevor -
> I am just the opposite....very optimistic!
>
> The thing to realize is that trends change. Every other generation, it
> seems, Deaf children are born into a different world in the deaf education
> trends...first schools are oral, then they move to manualism, then they move
> back to oralism, then they move back to sign language education...it seems
> to fluctuate frequently...but throughout... Deaf people are resilient and
> survive and move forward with their lives....and each time the trend
> changes, some things are different than before, and there are subtle
> improvements, even though it may be hard to see those improvements...
>
> In other words, it is true that reading and writing and even intelligent
> discourse is all changing...texting is not the same as writing a book on an
> old typewriter from the 1920's, but people are still intelligent and invent
> new ways to feel fulfilled and to grow...
>
> So do not dispair...the most important thing is to remain optimistic and
> choose to find new avenues for communication...that is why I work with
> SignWriting and I do not throw out the visual nature of the writing system,
> just because it does not fit the norms of computer programs today...because
> sign languages are visual in nature, and to lose capturing the language as
> it really is would be a shame...That is why I feel we need to work towards
> new goals that will expand our computing and thinking in new ways...
>
> Anyway...I hope we can move on now, to a new thread as well... How about a
> new thread:  "Common Inspiring Stories from SignWriting users"....
>
> Here is an inspiring story:
>
> One thing I am working on today is to create the Group 7 Handshape
> pages...for Adam's animated GIFs...as you know, Adam has been working on a
> big project, while he goes to school full time at CSUN...
>
> Here are Adam's animated GIFs to date...but tonight I hope to post Group
> 7...Yeah! Thank you, Adam, for this wonderful work...
>
> Lessons in ISWA Symbols
> http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/iswa/
>
> As soon as we have Groups 1-10 in animated GIFs, I am going to co-author a
> book with Adam called "SignWriting Hand Symbols"...that uses Adam's photos
> to show each handshape in 6 palm facings...so all the hands of the ISWA will
> be documented...on the web, and in book form...and I am thinking we could
> also create short videos for YouTube too...using the animated GIFs...a great
> way to teach SignWriting...
>
> THANK YOU, Adam!
>
> And thanks to you too Trevor, and to all of you, for continuing to be
> interested and to use SignWriting...Do you have any inspiring stories to
> share?
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:33:33 -0800
> Subject: [sw-l] Need Feedback for PersonalPuddle Software, version 1.3
> SignWriting List
> November 24, 2009
>
> PersonalPuddle users...For those who used the PersonalPuddle or
> PocketPuddle before, and then I sent you the upgrade to the new
> PersonalPuddle version 1.3...
>
> I need feedback from you...Were you able to install the new version? Have
> you had success using it?
>
> Anny, Stefan and Jonathan have given me excellent feedback already - thank
> you for that...
>
> Before I place the PersonalPuddle and PocketPuddle on Amazon.com, I want to
> update the user manuals and make sure the documentation will work for new
> users too...so your feedback will really help me write better backup
> materials...
>
> So write here to the List with your questions, problems, good experiences
> too...Whatever I should know for creating a better product...
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ---------------
>
>
> On Nov 14, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>
>
> A New Version of The PersonalPuddle
>
>
> PersonalPuddle version 1.3<http://www.suttonshop.com/ecommerce/pages/products_sw_detail.jsp?id=60.0>
>
> SignPuddle desktop software for personal computers...
>
>
> <http://www.suttonshop.com/ecommerce/pages/products_sw_detail.jsp?id=60.0>
>
>
> For Mac OS X 10.4 and later...
> For Windows 95 and later...
>
> With the PersonalPuddle you can:
> 1. Work in SignPuddle without an internet connection.
> 2. Connect to SignPuddle Online, if you have an internet connection.
> 3. Move back and forth between SignPuddle Online and your PersonalPuddle.
> 4. Import files from SignPuddle Online into your PersonalPuddle.
> 5. Copy signs and documets from your PersonalPuddle to SignPuddle Online.
> 6. Import User Interfaces in different languages.
> 7. Receive software updates and technical support.
> 8. Download from a link online, and also receive a CD by postal mail.
>
> PersonalPuddle users can upgrade for free. Contact me privately at:
> sutton at signwriting.org
>
> For those who have never used the PersonalPuddle before, you can read about
> it and order it online:
>
>
> The PersonalPuddle<http://www.suttonshop.com/ecommerce/pages/products_sw_detail.jsp?id=60.0>
>
>
> http://www.suttonshop.com/ecommerce/pages/products_sw_detail.jsp?id=60.0
>
>
> -------
>
> Many thanks to Steve Slevinski for this amazing new version of the
> PersonalPuddle, which I love...I use it everyday...I love the
> interconnectivity between the PersonalPuddle on your private computer and
> SignPuddle Online...a productive way to work...and practical too...your
> files are saved on your desktop, but you can add them anytime to SignPuddle
> Online...perfect for those who do not have reliable access to the
> internet...
>
> Once again we are blessed... just in time for Thanksgiving!
>
> Val ;-)
>
>
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