more handshape orientations
Ingvild Roald
iroald at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed Sep 9 18:50:51 UTC 2009
Thank you, this may solve the problem as I see it. Even if the general public would never see these symbols, the would show up in the spelling of the sign, and therefore be avaylable to the researcher. Sorry I was aware of how much detail is already awailable this way ;)
Ingvild
> From: sutton at signwriting.org
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] more handshape orientations
> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:45:00 -0700
>
> SignWriting List
> September 9, 2009
>
> On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Ingvild Roald wrote:
> > I agree that there could not be more shades in the ordinary
> > handshape symbol groups. But for research, maybe something extra
> > could be provided in the group 30, the one which is used for special
> > sorting needs etc.? I am thinking of simple lines or triangles
> > ('wedges') that could be added for this spesific purpose?
> > Ingvild
>
> Hello Ingvild!
> Great to hear from you, and thank you for this idea...I can see that
> has some possibilities for the future...
>
> It certainly could be possible in a future version of the ISWA. But
> the current symbolset that we have, the ISWA 2008, cannot be changed
> or added on to because it is already installed in SignPuddle...maybe
> in a few years we can talk about a new ISWA...
>
> In the ISWA 2008, Group 30 provides symbols for detailed location, and
> also depth in space, and height and width of signs, to give more
> details for looking up signs sorted by the symbols in
> SignWriting...sorted by the SSS (Sign-Symbol-Sequence). But we do not
> write with these detailed symbols in Group 30...we only sort with them
> when we have very large dictionaries where the details are helpful to
> determine which sign should come first and second in a group of signs
> in a dictionary. So Group 30 doesn't change the writing...only the
> sorting...
>
> I believe Honza wanted more detailed palm facing for writing? Or have
> I misunderstood, Honza?...If it is only for sorting later then I think
> Ingvild's idea could be done with a simple numeric 45 degree marker of
> some kind that the general public would never see...
>
> Here is an example of some of the detailed Location Symbols for the
> fingers and hand in Group 30 in ISWA 2008...see attached:
>
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