invisible person in ASL storytelling...

[Kimberley Shaw]

Hello all:
on the subject of writing expressive point-of-view versus receptive, I
find it MUCH easier to both write and read SW expressively. If I'm
reading a passage and run up against a sign I don't understand, then
putting it on my own hands helps me figure it out. Like sounding out
words when you're a hearing person learning to read.
Haven't yet seen the video of Graybill (am typing this on my phone),
but isn't the "invisible person" just an example of routine roleshift
that storytellers use?
My half-deaf two cents,
Kim from Boston

On 9/17/09, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hoi,
> Indeed it is relatively easy to reverse what you see. However, SignWriting
> is a script and it works only when everyone reads it in the same way.
> Thanks,
>      GerardM
>
> 2009/9/17 Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com>
>
>> Looking at videos makes me ponder why we don't teach both projective and
>> receptive sign writing.  Looking at a video and then the sign writing next
>> to it, they don't match, they are reverse images of each other and it
>> drives
>> one crazy to stop, put it on one's own hands, and put the facing image
>> there.  Trying to compare them is apples to oranges.
>> Sign writing is 3-dimensional, and when I was taught it, you literally
>> wrote what you saw.  Your right hand is your right hand, a photo's right
>> hand is to your left.
>>
>> With all of SW in a computer program, it could be made to reverse
>> everything relatively easily.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 9/16/09, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org>
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] invisible person in ASL storytelling...
>> To: "SignWriting List" <sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu>
>> Cc: "Jonita Juhala" <josignj at aol.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 6:06 PM
>>
>> SignWriting List
>> September 16, 2009
>>
>> Hi Jonita.
>>
>> Rather than writing a second imaginary person (which has only been
>> "implied" on the video, but is not really there)...just write how the
>> signer
>> tried to explain that imaginary person..These are complex videos to
>> transcribe and I admire your courage!
>>
>> Write exactly what you think you see the signer do...but don't worry about
>> the meaning of the "imaginary person"...
>>
>> Please see attached... In this writing I showed that the signer is facing
>> the corner, and he brushes his own tongue, and then pretends to brush
>> another person's tongue in "the middle of the air"...The tension symbol
>> helps give the feeling of the movement...
>>
>>
>>
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