Seeking speaker of BSL

[Kimberley Shaw]

Hello Suzanne:
thank you so much! Those are exactly the other versions I'd seen. Our
director will be very happy with all this information.
Thank you, Charles, Val, and Suzanne for making it happen.
Best,
Kim

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Suzanne pach <Suzanne at bordvoorjekop.nl> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just added two other versions of Mother that I
> think I have seen. They might be more 'mum-like' compared
> to the letter M one, but I'm not sure.
>
> Suzanne
>
>> I don't know BSL, these two were the signs that were
>> given, which is straight off the two-handed alphabet.  I
>> am not fluent in BSL and don't have access to BSL tapes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Kimberley Shaw <skifoot at GMAIL.COM>
>> To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU
>> Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 11:21:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: Seeking speaker of BSL
>>
>> Hi Charles:
>> yep, that looks like the handshape I saw for the
>> more-casual term
>> "Mum" (as well as a variation where the same handshape
>> taps your head
>> at the right temple). Thank you for putting it into
>> Puddle!
>> Will "Mother" be getting into Puddle too? Or is that one
>> up to me/others?
>> -- Kim
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Charles Butler
>> <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I just put Mum in, it's just there as Mum, not Mother
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Kimberley Shaw <skifoot at GMAIL.COM>
>>> To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU
>>> Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 10:04:30 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Seeking speaker of BSL
>>>
>>> Hi Charles:
>>> great!
>>> I can see that "Dad" is now in the BSL Puddle, as well
>>> as "Father".
>>> But not (yet) Mother/Mum ...
>>> Hey, what if I send a cellphone picture of my
>>> handwritten SW of these
>>> signs to Charles to transcribe ... and/or anyone else
>>> who's game?
>>> Best,
>>> Kim
>>>
>>> On 4/13/10, Charles Butler <chazzer3332000 at yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Val, Kim, and Suzanne, I have loaded the alternate
>>>> meanings of the two
>>>> alphabetic signs into the UK sign puddle.
>>>>
>>>> Charles Butler
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Kimberley Shaw <skifoot at GMAIL.COM>
>>>> To: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU
>>>> Sent: Tue, April 13, 2010 9:48:48 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Seeking speaker of BSL
>>>>
>>>> Hi Val and all:
>>>> tomorrow, I hope to grab time to SW these for the BSL
>>>> puddle! Am
>>>> typing from my phone at the moment.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Kim
>>>>
>>>> On 4/12/10, SignWriting <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>> SignWriting List
>>>>> April 12, 2010
>>>>>
>>>>> Suzanne and Kim -
>>>>> Can you write the signs you are discussing in
>>>>> SignWriting and post them
>>>>> to
>>>>> the List? I have no idea how to sign or write them and
>>>>> I would love to
>>>>> see
>>>>> the signs written -
>>>>>
>>>>> Val ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> -------
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Kimberley Shaw wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you, Suzanne! This does give me a good reason
>>>>>> to learn the
>>>>>> 2-handed alphabet, which is so different from the ASL
>>>>>> (and LSF) one.
>>>>>> However, since the director asked for translation of
>>>>>> "mom" and "dad",
>>>>>> rather than "mother" and "father", does BSL make this
>>>>>> distinction? ASL
>>>>>> does - although the difference between the more
>>>>>> formal and more casual
>>>>>> signs can be subtle to new signers.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Kim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/12/10, Suzanne pach <Suzanne at bordvoorjekop.nl>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Kim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mother and Father are usually signed as the letters
>>>>>>> M and
>>>>>>> F of the BSL-alphabet (which can be found in the BSL
>>>>>>> SignPuddle). And have have seen Dad being signed as
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> letter D.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you, Val!
>>>>>>>> I'll forward these links to the director. It would
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> weird
>>>>>>>> transcribing anything that's in a signed language I
>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> know ... but
>>>>>>>> I'll give it a go, and will trust in the power if
>>>>>>>> wiki
>>>>>>>> that if I get
>>>>>>>> it very wrong, some BSL speaker will improve on it.
>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Kim
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/12/10, SignWriting <signwriting at mac.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> SignWriting List
>>>>>>>>> April 12, 2010
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello Kim!
>>>>>>>>> I am not a BSL signer, however, on the web, there
>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>> video dictionaries.
>>>>>>>>> For example, if you visit this site:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.signstation.org/signstation_dictionary/showUserHomePage.do
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.signstation.org/dictionaries.shtml
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you can find signs in BSL...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> but they require that you register...but it is
>>>>>>>>> free I
>>>>>>>>> believe - I would
>>>>>>>>> assume they have the signs you need, and then it
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be great if you would
>>>>>>>>> write them in the BSL SignPuddle for us!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good luck with your project!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Val ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Kimberley Shaw
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello all:
>>>>>>>>>> the director of a play on my campus needs to
>>>>>>>>>> know, and
>>>>>>>>>> quite soon:
>>>>>>>>>> how do you sign "mom" and "dad" in BSL? I see
>>>>>>>>>> "father"
>>>>>>>>>> in the BLS
>>>>>>>>>> puddle, but not "mother", and don't know how much
>>>>>>>>>> different from
>>>>>>>>>> either of those the more casual mom/dad would be.
>>>>>>>>>> If someone can add these to Puddle quickly, the
>>>>>>>>>> actors
>>>>>>>>>> and director
>>>>>>>>>> would be very, very glad!
>>>>>>>>>> Best of luck with the email migration, a very big
>>>>>>>>>> change, that ...
>>>>>>>>>> Kim from Boston
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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