QUESTION: writing one sign in four viewpoints

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
December 13, 2010

Hello Stefan!
Thank you for your good editing below...Every document needs multiple editors to find all the tiny things...

You are absolutely correct - the last writing of the sign, from the Top View, should have double-stemmed arrows, not single stemmed arrows...

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I have corrected the diagram here:


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This is why I ask everyone to please post your questions to the SignWriting List, rather than to me personally...I do not see everything all the time - especially when we rarely write from the Receptive, Side or Top Perspectives...

It is good to have the Expressive and Receptive viewpoints, and the Side and Top perspectives as well... for research purposes... but Expressive is what we use on a daily basis.

This question came from another person, Stefan, not from me. So it is not my choice to compare a sign in these four perspectives - of course we write from the Expressive and that is all that is necessary - but I needed to answer this very interesting question...

I will send your feedback to the person who wrote to me -

Thanks for your help, Stefan!

Val ;-)


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On Dec 13, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Stefan W?hrmann wrote:

> Hi Valerie, 
> 
> thank you for this discussion. 
> 
> Well - does it make sense to write a sign in a hard to read view point? 
> 
> I mean - this sign is perfectly written and easy to read the expressive way.
> 
> 
> I can read the receptive point of view - but since we agree to use the
> expressive perspective - it will only cause confusion.. ;-( 
> 
> 
> The side view is the perfect option if we insist to describe diagonal
> movements and hand orientations in a perfect and easy to read way. 
> 
> I created a typical graphic for that - (Seitenansicht - index - hand
> diagonal upward .) 
> 
> I do not understand your writing of the arrows in your spelling Top down
> view - I read these arrows as if the hands move inward close to the body and
> outward - but the movement in expressive point of view is up and down. I
> would use the double stemmed arrows.
> 
> Your side grapic is hard to read because of this mixture of top view of the
> hands and side view of the head - --- hm 
> 
> Ok - all in all - I would prefer to use that point of view that is to be
> read without any difficulty.  So - who ever asked to show all different
> point of views - say hallo - 
> 
> Stefan ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: SignWriting List: Read and Write Sign Languages
> [mailto:SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU] Im Auftrag von Valerie Sutton
> Gesendet: Montag, 13. Dezember 2010 20:00
> An: SW-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACC.EDU
> Betreff: QUESTION: writing one sign in four viewpoints
> 
> SignWriting List
> December 13, 2010
> 
> Dear SW Listers -
> 
> I receive technical questions in private email. Here is one that might be of
> interest...
> 
> QUESTION:
> 
>> Have I written the ASL sign "oppose" correctly in all these view points?
> (see image below) I know that it is clearest in normal writing. But I was
> asked to give an example of the same sign written in different views.  ....
> What do you think?
> 
> 
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