embedding ASL in pdf/html

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
March 26, 2010

Hello Alan -
This is very interesting - a unique project -

The reason we do not line up symbols and signs with a baseline, is because SignWriting is written in vertical columns most of the time, and when the signs are written from left to right in our older software, SignWriter DOS, the signs are lined up by a "center point" for the cluster of symbols in a sign, rather than lined up on a baseline. A baseline is used for spoken languages written with the Roman alphabet, but other writing systems do not all use baselines...

But I can see that you are placing the signs on the same horizontal line with other characters of the Roman alphabet, so of course I can see your need for a baseline...We write real ASL in vertical columns for grammatical reasons...

Regarding the image quality...we get quite good image quality using ColumnMaker in SignPuddle - I do not understand quite, how you are using the software, but if you want to see a way to reduce signs in better quality on screen, using SignPuddle, I can show you -

But you are using the SignWriting Image Server, so I am not a programmer and I do not understand what you have access to...regarding features...I guess ColumnMaker, a feature in SignPuddle, is not really a part of the SignWriting Image Server...(smile...I may be wrong ;-))

Val ;-)

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On Mar 26, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Alan Post wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:05:52AM -0600, Alan Post wrote:
>> I would be delighted if, by the end of the day, I had my first page
>> with ASL sentences uploaded to my website, and by the end of the
>> week had succeeded in embedding svg or png graphics of signwritten
>> ASL words into my pdf.
>> 
>> May I have some guidance understanding where to go from here?  My
>> fingers tremble to write some ASL!
>> 
> 
> I set a goal for myself of rendering sign using SignWriting in a pdf
> document in one week.  I'm two days early, and am happy to report
> that I've published my first document that includes sign:
> 
>  http://lodockikumazvati.org/prekarni/20100326_le_vajrai_se_tadni_draft/
> 
> As I talk about in that entry, there are two big problems I still
> need to fix: I'm scaling each sign individually, so the all render
> at different scales, and I'm not rendering images aligned with any
> baseline, so they don't line up with each other right-to-left.
> 
> All the same, I'm really pleased with the result so far!
> 
> The tools I used to generate this document are published here, if
> anyone would like to look at the process I used to create this
> document:
> 
>  http://github.com/alanpost/lodockikumazvati
> 
> I consider this nothing more than a first step, but I'm really quite
> happy with it!
> 
> Thank you everyone for your wonderful help, feedback, and criticism.
> For those of you who haven't spoken up, thank you for looking at my
> work.
> 
> Has anyone rendered signs in a document like this and dealt with any
> of these problems?  I would love to leverage your work if you'll share
> it.
> 
> -Alan
> -- 
> te djuno lo do sevzi
> 
> 
> 
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