Greetings from Egypt!
Jonathan
duncanjonathan at YAHOO.CA
Thu Apr 19 13:49:39 UTC 2012
Hi Ryan,
Welcome to the list.
Here are two lists of world sign languages.
http://www.ethnologue.com/show_family.asp?subid=23-16
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sign_languages
Regards,
Jonathan
On 4/19/2012 5:30 AM, Ryan Fan wrote:
> One thing I forgot to ask: Does anyone know if there's an accepted
> abbreviation for Egyptian Sign Language? EgSL, perhaps? (Analogous
> to Arabic Sign Language being referred to as ArSL.) If there is a
> list of accepted names and abbreviations you could refer us to, that
> would be awesome.
> Many thanks!
> -Ryan
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Ryan Fan <ryanfan42 at gmail.com
> <mailto:ryanfan42 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hello Val!
> Thanks for referring me to the research and the Saudi Arabian
> SignPuddle. I'm sure it will be an interesting comparison in
> terms of signs and SW conventions. I'll try to add an English,
> Modern Standard Arabic (MSA), and Egyptian Arabic gloss for each
> sign, if available.
>
> An important thing to keep in mind about Arabic: "Arabic" is an
> umbrella term for many different stratified and overlapping spoken
> languages. (This is an oversimplification; we can discuss in more
> depth later.) Many native speakers are not able to actively
> distinguish features of their spoken variety and other varieties,
> including the MSA used in literature. The same appears to hold
> true for perceptions of the distinction between Egyptian Sign and
> what I've seen in Egypt referred to as simply "Arabic Sign."
> Hopefully, some of the data collection I'm trying to do will shed
> more light on this subject from a Sign perspective.
>
> Thanks again, and keep on dancing!
> -Ryan
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Valerie Sutton
> <sutton at signwriting.org <mailto:sutton at signwriting.org>> wrote:
>
> SignWriting List
> April 18, 2012
>
> Hello Ryan!
> Thank you for your correspondence today, and for adding signs
> to the Egyptian SignPuddle Dictionary, which has been close to
> empty for several years, waiting for someone to take interest
> in writing Egyptian Sign Language…
>
>
> Egyptian SignPuddle
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=84
> <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=84>
>
>
> So it was only natural for me, when I saw your message and
> some of the signs you have written in SignPuddle, that I
> danced around my office - because I did! Good news is a good
> reason to dance…smile...
>
> We will benefit from learning about Arabic, linguistics, Egypt
> and Egyptian Sign Language, so feel free to inform us… It
> sounds like you are doing interesting research and we look
> forward to learning more about it -
>
> Have you read some of Dr. Mohamed AbuShaira's research on
> SignWriting in Deaf Education in Jordan and Saudi Arabia? It
> is in Arabic...
>
> http://www.signwriting.org/arabia/
>
> Have you seen the Saudi Arabian SignPuddle in Arabic?
>
> Saudi Arabian SignPuddle
> http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=91
> <http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle2.0/index.php?ui=1&sgn=91>
>
> Several countries will benefit from an Arabic User Interface
> in SignPuddle, so thank you for offering to help with that -
>
> Val ;-)
>
> ---------
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Ryan Fan wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> My name's Ryan, and I'm trying to start work on the Egyptian
>> SignPuddle,
>> slowly transferring signs from my notebook onto the
>> SignPuddle database. In
>> truth, I'm rather new to SignWriting, and how my studies have
>> led me to this
>> juncture is a bit of a long story.
>>
>> In short, I have limited experience with ASL from grade
>> school hymns and a
>> high school ASL club many years ago. My undergraduate work
>> focused on
>> mathematics and linguistics, as well as Arabic. I've been
>> living in Egypt for the
>> past couple years, studying Arabic while searching for a
>> place to learn Egyptian
>> Sign Language. The bureaucracy here is something of a
>> tortuous and torturous
>> labyrinth, especially for foreigners, and I only managed to
>> start attending
>> weekly Egyptian Sign classes this Spring, mere months before
>> my departure to
>> start a graduate program in Arabic Linguistics back in the
>> US. I hope to return
>> relatively frequently (in intervals of ~6-12 months) for
>> documentation and
>> research on both spoken Egyptian Arabic and Egyptian Sign.
>>
>> Reading over Val's warm/dancing welcome to my inquiry and
>> seeing some of the
>> archived emails, I'm grateful to be part of such a supportive
>> and inquisitive
>> community! Please feel free to contact me via email should
>> you feel the strong
>> and sudden urge to discuss anything pertaining to Arabic,
>> linguistics, Egypt,
>> signing, any combination of those, or anything else, really.
>> Thanks!
>> -Ryan
>>
>
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